Stationbeem
Over 60's Club
I wonder what the advantages of such an engine would be?
http://www.internationalsteam.co.uk/video/firelessvideoclip.htm
http://www.internationalsteam.co.uk/video/firelessvideoclip.htm
Fireless Locomotive.
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I believe many were used around munitions factory sites where open flame would pose a hazard.
Rob.
Saxham_Market
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Also where cleanliness was an issue (the biscuit manufacturers Huntley and Palmer had one at their Reading factory from 1932 to the late 60s).
Hi Robd and everybody
Ah yea, possibly right there robd. How's this for a better one.
What would you get from a fireless locomotives?................ cold in winter:hehe:
Bill
Ah yea, possibly right there robd. How's this for a better one.
What would you get from a fireless locomotives?................ cold in winter:hehe:
Bill
Hi Martin and Everyone.
Martin I have ever respect for your thinking, but I have a job to imagine how one central boiler could feed several engines with steam. After all those engines are moving about, so how would you keep the steam feed going?
I believe I have better idea. One poster stated that there was a biscuit factory in Reading up until the late 60s. You could these days re-open the factory and reintroduce the steam engines for transportation.
Each engine would have have its own boiler and firebox. You would still make the biscuits in the factory but not Bake them. instead you could bake them in the firebox on the locomotive as it made its way to where the biscuits had to be delivered. The foregoing would be very environmentally friendly and save fuel.
If the biscuits became contaminated with the fumes etc from the coal in the firebox the solution would be simple. At the destination you would just package and sell them as " smoked". You could therefore have " smoked Hob Knobs" or "smoked Rich Tea" or " smoked ginger Nuts". The lines could be endless and what a seller.
Perhaps a few of us Trainzers could get together, reopen the factory and get prepared to make our first million along with having our beloved steam locomotives to drive.
Bill
Martin I have ever respect for your thinking, but I have a job to imagine how one central boiler could feed several engines with steam. After all those engines are moving about, so how would you keep the steam feed going?
I believe I have better idea. One poster stated that there was a biscuit factory in Reading up until the late 60s. You could these days re-open the factory and reintroduce the steam engines for transportation.
Each engine would have have its own boiler and firebox. You would still make the biscuits in the factory but not Bake them. instead you could bake them in the firebox on the locomotive as it made its way to where the biscuits had to be delivered. The foregoing would be very environmentally friendly and save fuel.
If the biscuits became contaminated with the fumes etc from the coal in the firebox the solution would be simple. At the destination you would just package and sell them as " smoked". You could therefore have " smoked Hob Knobs" or "smoked Rich Tea" or " smoked ginger Nuts". The lines could be endless and what a seller.
Perhaps a few of us Trainzers could get together, reopen the factory and get prepared to make our first million along with having our beloved steam locomotives to drive.
Bill
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It's called storage. The central boiler is not connected permanently to each engine, just like an electric car is does not have a loooong extension cord back to the wall plug. The steam is stored on board in a large sized thermos like bottle. When the storage drops below a specified threshold, the engine returns to the central boiler and gets some more steam. There is more to it than that but that's the general idea.Hi Martin and Everyone.
Martin I have ever respect for your thinking, but I have a job to imagine how one central boiler could feed several engines with steam. After all those engines are moving about, so how would you keep the steam feed going?
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Bill
Hi Martin and Everyone.
Martin I have ever respect for your thinking, but I have a job to imagine how one central boiler could feed several engines with steam. After all those engines are moving about, so how would you keep the steam feed going?
I believe I have better idea. One poster stated that there was a biscuit factory in Reading up until the late 60s. You could these days re-open the factory and reintroduce the steam engines for transportation.
Each engine would have have its own boiler and firebox. You would still make the biscuits in the factory but not Bake them. instead you could bake them in the firebox on the locomotive as it made its way to where the biscuits had to be delivered. The foregoing would be very environmentally friendly and save fuel.
If the biscuits became contaminated with the fumes etc from the coal in the firebox the solution would be simple. At the destination you would just package and sell them as " smoked". You could therefore have " smoked Hob Knobs" or "smoked Rich Tea" or " smoked ginger Nuts". The lines could be endless and what a seller.
Perhaps a few of us Trainzers could get together, reopen the factory and get prepared to make our first million along with having our beloved steam locomotives to drive.
Bill
Hmmm. Have a long holiday Bill, I'm sure you need one.
Rob.
Nice one Bill, we need more silliness these days. And we could throw a few tea bags into the boiler so there's always a fresh brew available..............Hi Martin and Everyone.
I believe I have better idea...............Perhaps a few of us Trainzers could get together, reopen the factory and get prepared to make our first million along with having our beloved steam locomotives to drive.
Bill
Mick Berg.
Actually not. It has to do with the energy available to do work. Water can contain a lot more than air. It would take too long to give a complete course in physics and chemistry here. Considering that these fireless engines were still being built and used into the 1980's and 90's in Germany, I'm pretty sure the bean counters and engineers had figured out it was a cost effective solution to the problem at hand.
magickmaker
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http://users.tinyworld.co.uk/ainskip/ThievesBridge/PartII.htm
Compressed Air Locomotives. Some are quite large.
Compressed Air Locomotives. Some are quite large.