Stationbeem
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I wonder what the advantages of such an engine would be?
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I wonder what the advantages of such an engine would be?
http://www.internationalsteam.co.uk/video/firelessvideoclip.htm
I believe many were used around munitions factory sites where open flame would pose a hazard.
Rob.
I wonder what the advantages of such an engine would be?
http://www.internationalsteam.co.uk/video/firelessvideoclip.htm
Hi Everybody.
Well I've been thinking about this thread for at least 20 minutes now with quite some concentration and here is my considered opinion.
What would you get from a fireless locomotive................possibly......no steam:hehe:
(sorry could not resist)
Bill
20 minutes to come up with that!
As my teacher use to say - 'Could do better'
Commonly used in places where it would be dangerous to have an open flame or where the smoke from a fire was not wanted. Also, a central boiler could be more fuel efficient especially if it was feeding multiple engines who worked within a limited radius.
It's called storage. The central boiler is not connected permanently to each engine, just like an electric car is does not have a loooong extension cord back to the wall plug. The steam is stored on board in a large sized thermos like bottle. When the storage drops below a specified threshold, the engine returns to the central boiler and gets some more steam. There is more to it than that but that's the general idea.Hi Martin and Everyone.
Martin I have ever respect for your thinking, but I have a job to imagine how one central boiler could feed several engines with steam. After all those engines are moving about, so how would you keep the steam feed going?
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Bill![]()
Hi Martin and Everyone.
Martin I have ever respect for your thinking, but I have a job to imagine how one central boiler could feed several engines with steam. After all those engines are moving about, so how would you keep the steam feed going?
I believe I have better idea. One poster stated that there was a biscuit factory in Reading up until the late 60s. You could these days re-open the factory and reintroduce the steam engines for transportation.
Each engine would have have its own boiler and firebox. You would still make the biscuits in the factory but not Bake them. instead you could bake them in the firebox on the locomotive as it made its way to where the biscuits had to be delivered. The foregoing would be very environmentally friendly and save fuel.
If the biscuits became contaminated with the fumes etc from the coal in the firebox the solution would be simple. At the destination you would just package and sell them as " smoked". You could therefore have " smoked Hob Knobs" or "smoked Rich Tea" or " smoked ginger Nuts". The lines could be endless and what a seller.
Perhaps a few of us Trainzers could get together, reopen the factory and get prepared to make our first million along with having our beloved steam locomotives to drive.
Bill![]()
Nice one Bill, we need more silliness these days. And we could throw a few tea bags into the boiler so there's always a fresh brew available..............Hi Martin and Everyone.
I believe I have better idea...............Perhaps a few of us Trainzers could get together, reopen the factory and get prepared to make our first million along with having our beloved steam locomotives to drive.
Bill![]()
Actually not. It has to do with the energy available to do work. Water can contain a lot more than air. It would take too long to give a complete course in physics and chemistry here. Considering that these fireless engines were still being built and used into the 1980's and 90's in Germany, I'm pretty sure the bean counters and engineers had figured out it was a cost effective solution to the problem at hand.Why would you need a boiler? Compressed air would do the same job.
Ben