Fatal Errors

[marky7890]

Hi, I have recently decided to upgrade to Trainz Classics 3 (after having TRS2006). I have been getting alot of fatal errors (which i also got in TRS2006). When i click on a bookmark or use the mini map to go a different part of my route alot of the time a fatal error ocours.
Which normally states the file as RenderSystem_7c.dll or KernelStandard_7c.dll.

Also when i load my route in Trainz classics i get this message come up:

I have installed TC3 in safe mode (so no anti virus software was running), and having the latest graphic card drivers. Also i have turned off UAC on Vista.

My Specs are:
Windows Vista Home Premium
ATI Raedon 4850 (512mb)
Intel Duel Core 3.16Ghz CPU
300GB Harddrive
4.00GB RAM

Thanks,
Mark

 

[marky7890]

Here is what the Jetlog currently reads:
Part 1

Jet vRRRRR.RR Build 1234.5.QQQQQ on May 29 2008 at 18:47:15.
Begin:
? 000071B0 Warn 0:00.8 TrainzClassic : InterfaceTextDB> failed to load compiled interfacetext file
? 00007630 Warn 0:02.3 TrainzClassic : TADDownloadStation::Read> queued urls: 0
? 00006C9C Warn 0:04.9 TrainzClassic : DownloadTask:oPlanetAuranLogin> logging in to planet auran
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.0 TrainzClassic : TrainzBaseSpec::GetGSClass> Could not load Trainz library Whistle_Sign.gsl for 'local//content 6atr5af986 <kuid2:60850:23113:1>'
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.2 TrainzClassic :
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.2 TrainzClassic : WorldState::WarnObsolete> TrainzGameObject.GetAsset> invalid call to GetAsset() prior to Init(Asset) being inherited
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.2 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@Interface::WarnObsolete(string), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.2 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $Asset@TrainzGameObject::GetAsset(), line 83
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.2 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function ::UKaws(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> Thead Exception ER_NativeCallError, line -1, file
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** DUMPING ALL THEAD STACKS ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** STACK DUMP OF THREAD 0 ON GAME OBJECT 05 Redruth (1own), id 52 ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@GenericPassengerStation::StationMain(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog>
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** STACK DUMP OF THREAD 1 ON GAME OBJECT 05 Redruth (1own), id 52 ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@BaseIndustry::BaseIndustryMain(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog>
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** STACK DUMP OF THREAD 0 ON GAME OBJECT Trigger 1483, id 136 ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@AtlsTrigger::TramHandler(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog>
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** STACK DUMP OF THREAD 0 ON GAME OBJECT Trigger 1484, id 137 ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@AtlsTrigger::TramHandler(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog>
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** STACK DUMP OF THREAD 0 ON GAME OBJECT , id 150 ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@TrafficController::KickStart(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog>
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** STACK DUMP OF THREAD 1 ON GAME OBJECT , id 150 ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@TrafficController::Timer(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog>
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** STACK DUMP OF THREAD 0 ON GAME OBJECT , id 166 ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@LcBar::Raise(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog>
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** STACK DUMP OF THREAD 0 ON GAME OBJECT , id 380 ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@AnimatedSignal::EventLoop(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog>
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** STACK DUMP OF THREAD 0 ON GAME OBJECT ACL 03 Roche, id 454 ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@GenericPassengerStation::StationMain(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog>
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** STACK DUMP OF THREAD 1 ON GAME OBJECT ACL 03 Roche, id 454 ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@BaseIndustry::BaseIndustryMain(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog>
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** STACK DUMP OF THREAD 0 ON GAME OBJECT 17 Dockyard (1own), id 643 ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@GenericPassengerStation::StationMain(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog>
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** STACK DUMP OF THREAD 1 ON GAME OBJECT 17 Dockyard (1own), id 643 ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@BaseIndustry::BaseIndustryMain(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog>
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** STACK DUMP OF THREAD 0 ON GAME OBJECT St Ives Branch - 04 - Carbis Bay, id 658 ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@GenericPassengerStation::StationMain(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog>
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** STACK DUMP OF THREAD 1 ON GAME OBJECT St Ives Branch - 04 - Carbis Bay, id 658 ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@BaseIndustry::BaseIndustryMain(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog>
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** STACK DUMP OF THREAD 0 ON GAME OBJECT St Ives Branch - 03 - Lelant, id 670 ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@GenericPassengerStation::StationMain(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog>
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** STACK DUMP OF THREAD 1 ON GAME OBJECT St Ives Branch - 03 - Lelant, id 670 ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@BaseIndustry::BaseIndustryMain(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog>
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** STACK DUMP OF THREAD 0 ON GAME OBJECT St Ives Branch - 02 - Lelant Saltings, id 695 ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@GenericPassengerStation::StationMain(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog>
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** STACK DUMP OF THREAD 1 ON GAME OBJECT St Ives Branch - 02 - Lelant Saltings, id 695 ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@BaseIndustry::BaseIndustryMain(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog>
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** STACK DUMP OF THREAD 0 ON GAME OBJECT , id 709 ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@AnimatedSignal::EventLoop(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog>
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** STACK DUMP OF THREAD 0 ON GAME OBJECT , id 710 ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@AnimatedSignal::EventLoop(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog>
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** STACK DUMP OF THREAD 0 ON GAME OBJECT , id 711 ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@AnimatedSignal::EventLoop(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog>
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** STACK DUMP OF THREAD 0 ON GAME OBJECT , id 712 ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@AnimatedSignal::EventLoop(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog>
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> *** STACK DUMP OF THREAD 0 ON GAME OBJECT , id 714 ***
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@AnimatedSignal::EventLoop(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog>
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> Stack Dump...
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $string[]@Industry::GetProcessNameList(), line -1
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@IndustryProductInfoCollection::InitFromAsset(), line 953
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@IndustryProductInfoCollection::Init(BaseIndustry), line 89
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@BaseIndustry::Init(), line 875
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@Goods_shed::Init(), line 74
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.7 TrainzClassic : ScriptLog> function $void@MeshObject::Init(Asset), line 285
? 000071B0 Warn 0:31.9 TrainzClassic : WorldState::NativeLog> VSRConditionalSpeedboard: Init: Left: 17.877001, Right: 0.000000, Straight: 0.000000.

Mark

 

[marky7890]

Part 2:

? 00007044 Warn 0:32.5 TrainzClassic : TADDownloadStation::Write> 0
! 00007518 Err 1:27.2 ExceptionHandle : Critical Shutdown ...
! 00007518 Err 1:27.8 ExceptionHandle : Class: Hardware
! 00007518 Err 1:27.8 ExceptionHandle : Reason: Access Violation
! 00007518 Err 1:27.8 ExceptionHandle : Version: Jet vRRRRR.RR Build 1234.5.QQQQQ
! 00007518 Err 1:27.8 ExceptionHandle :
! 00007518 Err 1:27.8 ExceptionHandle : Exception @ 00D30564 in C:\Program Files\Auran\TC\bin\RenderSystem_7c.dll
! 00007518 Err 1:27.8 ExceptionHandle :
! 00007518 Err 1:27.8 ExceptionHandle : Recoverable exception: Yes
! 00007518 Err 1:27.8 ExceptionHandle :
! 00007518 Err 1:27.8 ExceptionHandle : EAX: 00100000 EBX: 00000001 ECX: 4C5D6124 EDX: 00000000
! 00007518 Err 1:27.8 ExceptionHandle : ESP: 0276FC94 EBP: 7CC48FC4 ESI: 00000000 EDI: 00000001
! 00007518 Err 1:27.8 ExceptionHandle :
! 00007518 Err 1:27.8 ExceptionHandle : DS: 00000023 FS: 0000003B
! 00007518 Err 1:27.8 ExceptionHandle : ES: 00000023 GS: 00000000
! 00007518 Err 1:27.8 ExceptionHandle : SS: 00000023 CS:EIP: 001B:00D30564
! 00007518 Err 1:27.8 ExceptionHandle :
! 00007518 Err 1:27.8 ExceptionHandle : Flags: 00010246 (CF:0 ZF:1 SF:0)
! 00007518 Err 1:27.8 ExceptionHandle :
! 00007518 Err 1:27.8 ExceptionHandle : Call Stack:
! 00007518 Err 1:27.8 ExceptionHandle :
! 00007518 Err 1:27.8 ExceptionHandle : 00D30564 - 00000001(+3F564) C:\Program Files\Auran\TC\bin\RenderSystem_7c.dll
Shutdown.

Mark

 

[marky7890]

This is very stange i have removed the fullscreen tag from the options file, and selected a lower screen resolution and it runs fine so far (touch wood), which runs it as a window and no fatal errors. What would cause this to happen?

Edit: Spoke too soon, just got an error!

Mark

 

[UP5521]

Wow that is a problem,well the only thing I can come up with is to talk to Zec about that and good luck on trying to solve this problem!

 

[JCitron]

Mark

There's a few things to try.

Try updating your video drivers to their latest version for your video card.

Have you tried DriectX instead of Open/GL?

Ensure you have the latest DirectX driver from Microsoft.

John

 

[marky7890]

Mark

There's a few things to try.

Try updating your video drivers to their latest version for your video card.

Have you tried DriectX instead of Open/GL?

Ensure you have the latest DirectX driver from Microsoft.

John

I do have the latest video drivers for my video card.
OpenGL actually seems to work better than Direct X for me, and doesn't give as many errors as Direct X.
Also i have the latest Direct X driver.

Thanks,
Mark

 

[adrian67]

I have a problem in TRS2006. See the photo attached

 

[Blackie11]

Mark,

I too am getting the second part of your problem, the script error, IE the warning light with:

Thread exception:ER etc etc etc

I too have just got S&C and loaded into TS 2009. The msg does not seem to affect anything, it is just annoying having the red light on, actually if you open the "More" button the light goes out. But I am just wondering what is happening, I would appreciate any help to rectify this.

Regards,

Dave

 

[Blackie11]

Mark,

I really think this post does not belong in Parts and Labour and should be moved, I would never have thought to look here, good thing the search engine did

Dave

 

[Blackie11]

Mark,

I went to the S&C Forum and got an answer to the problem from El Stoko re the red dot, you can read the thread over in TS2009, S&C add on, but basically it was a Goods Shed (line 5 on your error msg) causing the problem, the Hawes Junction Shed, when I del this the dot went away. I don't know if this will work for you but suspect it will, at least for that part of your problems.

Regards,

Dave