Erie Lackawanna?

[Milaga]

I'm having a hard time finding any EL stuff. There is a reasonable amount of Erie stuff but I can't really use it if I want a late 60s timetable. In the DLS I've only found a pair of SD45s, and RS3, an SW7 and a pair of GP39s. EL never even owned any GP39s, so maybe I can tool with the skins and wrap them on another GP35 model.

There's not even an F7. It's probably the only road that doesn't have one. Even some roads that never owned an Alco seem to have them! Searching outside of the DLS yielded a few units but the kuids don't exist anymore.

Does anyone know where I can get a hold of some EL motive power? If I can't even find a single caboose I'm going to have to run another line in my first big project. I'm already contracting out the passenger service to the NYC.

Also, why do kuids disappear from the DLC? There must be some reason I cannot comprehend why keys are removed ...

 

[Approach_Medium]

I've not been able to find any EL anywhere, except for the one or two you have already found on DLS.
I checked a few of the external sites as well, and nothing there.
Although I'm operating a current day proto rr in NJ, NY, and PA, I would still like to have some of the old EL locos.

I think if you can do a reskin, that's your best option. I have never tried that. Don't have the software required, not even sure what is required.

Good luck.

FW

 

[jadebullet]

I have an EL F7 Reskin that I did a long time ago if you are interested. Just PM me your email.

 

[barn700]

I have some Erie Lackawanna cars, check the US section on my website

 

[gfisher]

Alco C424 58843:53
EL F7 58843:40
EL F7B 58843:43
EL Trainmaster 58843:143
EL SD45 45588:3635
EL GP38 61418:100049
GP7P 45588:458
GP7 45588:499
44t 45588:497

Make sure you check all boxes on download station when you search as some of this stuff was done a while back.

 

[lsstaten]

rrmods has EL SD45-2's as payware which are very nice.plus they have EL GP35's has freeware too on the downloads TRS04 page.

 

[ldowns]

Alco C424 58843:53
EL F7 58843:40
EL F7B 58843:43
EL Trainmaster 58843:143
EL SD45 45588:3635
EL GP38 61418:100049
GP7P 45588:458
GP7 45588:499
44t 45588:497

Make sure you check all boxes on download station when you search as some of this stuff was done a while back.

Some of these may require some repairs if you're using TS2009. I had to de-alias the F7 and F7b after converting the original Auran .pm files to .im in order for it to appear in the game; otherwise I had trains running with invisible locomotives and couldn't place them into new consists.

Now if someone would just reskin an E8...

--Lamont

 

[Milaga]

Yah, I had to fiddle with quite a few of them. I still can't get the GP35s to work right. They are missing their map files. All of joram24's GP35s are. They only come up as all-white models, which is too bad, since those textures look top-notch.

The RS3 by gfisher's is very well done. The same can be said for magicland's C424. I'm getting a main.texture error with that one but it runs fine without it. The SW7 is also quite a good model.

The GP38's aren't that hot, but the GP39's by cincysouthernrwy are. It's a shame not to use them, but I'll definitely use "cincy's" SD45s.

I've decided to contract out all the passenger service to the NYC, who has a massive line of passenger cars and engines in the DLC. The mainline will be serviced by the nice NYC RDCs. There are a ton of streamlined cars available, which look nice with the E8s, but they are all fairly old and don't have an inside view. Still, I'll have that running the long distance service from Geneva to Jersey Shore.

This leaves me with:
1 SW7
1 RS3
1 C424
2 GP35s (once fixed)
2 SW45s

I'm thinking that I might not be as concerned with road numbers on this railroad as I had intended to. So I won't bother with cloning a adding new engine numbers. This still leaves me sans a caboose, so I guess my first upload to the DLC will be an EL caboose. Hopefully I can get to that sometime next week. The rest of the route is coming together nicely.

Thanks again for the help and links. Hadn't thought to look in the web based DLC for older content.

 

[CincySouthernRwy]

I made the GP39's as stand-ins for GP35's - notice the units numbers. I didn't use the GP35 model now available because it is proprietary and because it looks kind of like a narrow gauge engine. Something about it is misproportioned.

I considered doing GP38-2's and SD40-2's after the stuff George Elwood (Fallen Flags website) wrote about what EL was going to buy after 1976 had they lasted.

Didn't EL operate Erie FA's?

You gave me an idea. How about a Dash 9? Or an SW1500?

 

[Milaga]

I made the GP39's as stand-ins for GP35's - notice the units numbers. I didn't use the GP35 model now available because it is proprietary and because it looks kind of like a narrow gauge engine. Something about it is misproportioned.

Thanks for all the great engines. Yeah, I did notice that the road numbers you chose for the GP39s were the same as what EL used for their GP35s. I didn't realize how similar the two looked. Apart from a single fan, the GP39 is pretty much an elongated GP35. I suppose they can stay.

Didn't EL operate Erie FA's?

Yes they did, but I've never liked the look of cab units pulling freight. I've always liked the short-nosed "geep" look since I was a kid.

You gave me an idea. How about a Dash 9? Or an SW1500?

I don't think EL ran either of those. A SW1200 would be nice, I see you have a few of them.

I'm more of a New York Central fan than anything else, I just wanted to do EL for my first project. Thank you again for all the fantastic NYC engines you've made. I've got quite selection of road power. Unfortunately, I've not found any functional NYC switchers in the DLS. I'd suggest making NYC SW1200s too but I don't think they had any.

 

[gfisher]

NYC switchers in the DLS

There is an RS3.

 

[Milaga]

There is an RS3.

Indeed there is. I don't know why I didn't see it before.

This is not the first time someone pointed out that something I couldn't find was in fact on the DLS, and had been for over four years. It's strange, search results seem to change from time to time. Also, some of the items I can find in the DLC I can't find in the CMS and vice versa. Auran's FTP site does not appear to be the same as what is in the CMS.

 

[mjolnir]

How about a Dash 9? Or an SW1500 [in EL paint scheme?

I find photos of two EL SW-1200's (EL 457 and 460, implying that there were at least two more, EL 458 and 459) on the rrpicturearchives.net site, but no photos of an SW1500 in EL livery. EL was absorbed into CR before GE produced the Dash-9 model; EL's GE models were of types that are not well represented in TRS: U25B's, U30C's, U33C's and U36C's.

ns

 

[Alex99al]

Erie Lackawanna Caboose?

I have a bunch of Erie Lackawanna diesels and a few freight cars, but where can I find an Erie Lackawanna caboose?

 

[gfisher]

As far as I know, no one has ever done one.

 

[Milaga]

I made the GP39's as stand-ins for GP35's - notice the units numbers. I didn't use the GP35 model now available because it is proprietary and because it looks kind of like a narrow gauge engine. Something about it is misproportioned.

It's narrow? Looks small? Which GP35 model are you referring to? There are other "GP35s" in the DLS, but they seemed to be GP38s or 39s.

Here are the lengths of the ~1950-~1970 Geeps:

GP07 55'11"
GP09 56'02"
GP20 56'02"
GP35 56'02"
GP30 56'02"
GP40 59'02"
GP38 59'02"
GP39 59'02"

The GP35 is

Sorry, I'm not being critical, but the 39

Also, this brings into doubt I have about the scales of a lot of the DLS locos. The GP38s, 39s and 40s are all the same size. But they seem to be a lot longer than 3 feet longer than the GP9. I haven't spent too much time measuring them, but it's than

Joram24's (textureless) GP35s are the right size, but building textures from scratch on them is somewhat time consuming. Not only that, I won't be able to put the finished product int he DLS. Still, the GP35s were pretty much the core of EL's motive power, it will be nice to get some of them on the line.

 

[CincySouthernRwy]

What I am referring to is that the GP35 and SD35 (and possibly other models, too) models both appear to be sitting very low, too low, on their trucks. I once put up on my screen a photo of a prototype GP35 and the RRMods model and yes, there appears to be a height discrepancy. Most other dimensions appear to be spot on. As a result, the GP35 model looks off to me. Sort of narrow gauge-ish.

Once I read in a review in Model Railroader magazine of the Bachmann SD45 being about a foot too tall on its trucks, and how a 12" discrepancy normally wouldn't be noticeable... however, in this case, since it is in height, it WAS noticeable, especially since it was between the trucks and the side sill on the Bachmann SD45.

Also, since it is a proprietary model, I do not have permission to upload a reskin of it like I do with Roger Crouch's GP39 model. So that is what I have to work with. It's longer than a GP35 and missing the middle fan, but it works for now.

BTW, an EL Dash 9 would be a strictly fictional engine, but still a fun one. EL was holding out of Conrail until hurricane damage and a down year in traffic forced it to opt-in very late in the game in 1975. What if?

I haven't done much with NYC because I do not have the proper font for the lettering. EL made that easy for me.