Electric (pant or Trolley) loco for 2-foot gauge?

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Joined: 28th Oct. 2002
Hi,

I have a strange request for those more knowledgeable about what is in available for Trainz.

I would very much like to find for a fantasy route a locomotive to help me haul some wagons down a ruling grade of 7% from a mine to a mill, using electric power from a overhead, running on narrow 2-foot track.
Time frame early 1900, like 1910/1920ish..

Anybody seen such a small beast I could download and play with, or do I need to construct it my self?
It has to be a more then a mining locomotive meant for underground use, as I also run some Shay and other Trainz on this track, so it has to have the height a regular mining locomotive don't have.

Or, anyone wanting to build such a beast. :wave:

I have no rush really, I just play around with a map on and off, and lately as depression set in I find my self more in there looking for the lost inspiration and or feel to make me function better again. :(

Years, years ago I made a similar plead, then for some 2-foot lumber cars to use for a small forest area they where chopping down for the mines...
Same route, and I was in heaven when the 2-foot Shay's came around, never got around to do the re-gauge of a lumber car though so still not running those Trainz.

Anyway, thanks for listen to me.

Best wishes everyone

Linda
 
I think these might suit, but they are 750mm gauge...

elec.jpg


It might be possible to find a 2' bogie to substitute.

I found them recently on a 3rd party Russian site, but I could probably dig out a link for you if they are of interest.

Andy :)
 
Hmm, those look a little too modern for the 1900 / 1920 era if you ask me. :hehe:

Linda, do you have pictures, drawings, or even some scetches of the kind of electric contraption you have in mind? Right gauge isn't important, just the look and feel...

Greetings from sunny Amsterdam,

Jan
 
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Hi Andy,

Wow, they looks small, cute and while being the "wrong" gauge I have a feel I might be able to live with that just as I liked the look. :)
Thank you for the image!!

Or, I can re-gauge the mine to mill track to 30-inch, close enough, as I don't feel for making 750mm track... :)

A link could be a very nice thing to have yes, to bad they're not on the DLS, they looks so great!

Thank you

Linda

and yes, I know, not very US like, but who cares if the boss like them... :p

LOL
 
Hi Jan,

I have a feel your right about the time frame, but I seen some images in a book somewhere kinda looking like those from back in time, but yes, I am not so sure what I really are looking for, except something to call on that feel that loco just called on me. :)

I will have to look around a little to find the look I am after and fitting the time frame, I have several old mining journals and similar types around and I know in there I have seen something along the look I am after, and time frame more then correct as most of my issues are from the time frame 1904-1916... :)

Thanks for the post, I never saw it as Andy's was the only I saw when I posted my reply.

At Malc,

Thank you for the link to the youtube video, they sure look like some strange beasts that also could fit the bill so to speak.
And the background, rebuild steam engines, love that idea!!

BTW, The other link, the first link in your post, was just leading me to a "post reply" screen so if there was a picture in there it didn't work.

Thanks guys for the replies!

Best wishes

Linda
 
Thank you Malc,

Strange looking but a very cool background to convert a steam locomotive to an electric one, love that idea. :)

Just for the fun of it, can almost picture in my mind a mini shay with a pole for the electric current... :hehe:
(runs and hide now... :eek:)

Anyway, I had a quick look around at my nearest source, a Scientific American Supplement weekly journal from 1904, I think it was a April or May issue.

Most of that was of the small underground engines, but I saw these two images as linked to below, and the first one is more to the thing I had in mind I think, even if I really liked those Russian ones as they where so cute...

pic_20-horsepower_elec-loco_scientific-american-supplement1904.jpg


This looks very much alike a small diesel I have had in Trainz for ages by someone, I think the engine was called a mouse in Trainz years ago.
This one is small, a little to open maybe, but small, cute, and would been a fun little beast to play with. :D

And, now, this strange looking one, not on my look for list really, but I saw it and had to show it... ;)

pic_direct-current_elec-loco_scientific-american-supplement1904.jpg


this I know is a more European underground type engine, but it is so cute... :cool:

Thanks for the comments!

Linda
 
Tiny Tim

Well, I did have some inspiration yesterday after thinking how an electric locomotive for 2ft gauge could look. Probably simple, but not open because water and electricity don't mix too well. :hehe:

As for design, that would most likely be nonexistent, so I guestimate it would look like a little bunkhouse on track. In short, something like this:

tinytim02.jpg


I've never made rolling stock for 2ft gauge so I took the measures with an avarage person of 1.72meter high (the gray block) in mind. The contraption is approx. 1.80m width and 3.3m long. The wire height would be 4.30m above the trackhead.

Things that I would need to know is for instance the height of the couplers for 2ft gauge and there will come up other things I'm sure. :hehe:

Greetings from sunny Amsterdam,

Jan
 
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Jananton said:
I've never made rolling stock for 2ft gauge so I took the measures with an avarage person of 1.72meter high (the gray block) in mind. The contraption is approx. 1.80m width and 3.3m long. The wire height would be 4.30m above the trackhead.

Things that I would need to know is for instance the height of the couplers for 2ft gauge and there will come up other things I'm sure. :hehe:

Greetings from sunny Amsterdam,

Jan
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Height of couplers? Now you've said it. ;)
Varies considerably depending on what line what country and what sort of couplings used, historically there are quite a few types ranging from chopper, which is probably the most efficient, to random sized blocks of wood placed at random heights on the buffer beams and a hook and chain............
 
Wow!

Jan, your a champion!!

To dream/think the design up, construct it and have it look that good in this little time, I nearly have to bow at your feet, but that might be a little inappropriate.. :p

Box on wheels, I bet the engine driver will love you for that one, no cold weather to bug him. :)
I love that image, it's so "boxy", and old time looking home made nearly thingy that I have nearly fell in love with!
Thanks for posting the image!!

Now, the couplers, yes, it is a hard issue, as clam1952 said, it all depends on all kind of things.
Personally I used the 2-foot Gilpin tram hoppers all over my routes, and until I either find something else or build something else my self that is what I would stick to.

Those use some form of a old type coupler box with a pin I think into a slot and two pins to hold it in place, one on each car - sorry, no idea what it is called.
I know on the Gilpin Ore car it looks like a black square like hole in a box like thingy pokin gout from the car, having a black smaller hole on the top.
The height, hmm, never measured it, need to go check it up and get back to you at that, think I have a drawing somewhere of the Gilpin hopper.

Maybe this helps:

Folio-23-02.jpg

Seems to me like the center of that couple box is set at 27,5 inch - or 69,85cm for us Europeans :D above the rail top

Maybe a good height, not sure.

Thank you for doing this model, it sure is nice to see someone being able to make something that good looking, personally I struggled fopr a day just to make a simple trestle work the way I wanted, and in the end it turned out I had put black into the normal map where the rail part was located and hence I got strange results in the game not being able to understand why I never could get the rail heads to be whitish like my old track...
I am getting old...

Best wishes from a warm and sun filled Norway!!

Linda
 
Ok, gilpin hoppers are the ones used on the Northbay County route, I presume. The coal ones in this case. Well that's build in in ts2010 (and trs2006 for that matter) so that won't be too difficult to figure out. I'll see how far I get with 69.85 cm coupler height first though. :hehe:
Also that drawing wil come in handy to check some other measures I guessed.

Anyway it's good to hear it gets your approval.

Greetings from dusk Amsterdam,

Jan
 
Here it is:
AEG F17 <KUID2:72730:15500:4>
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It may not be exactly what you're looking for, but its creator made many items of rolling stock you might like. Just search for gerd.
 
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