DEM ignorance
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PetraEllel
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Which programme do you mean? There are a few programmes that use DEM maps and trainz.
Ian
Ian
DEM is short for Digital Elevation Model. It's a representation of the shape of the ground in 3-D coordinates and can be used by several programs to generate topological maps.
For Trainzers, the cheapest way to get into making DEM maps for Trainz is through freeware like MicroDEM, then converting the graphic files generated in that program to a .gnd file with HOG (Hand of God). There's a tutorial here... http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/...rrainGeneration/Computer-generatedTerrain.htm It includes links to obtain all the programs and files you'll need and instructions on setting it up.
There's a payware system called TranzDEM that integrates both processes into one program and can use a wider variety of graphic files to mark roads and track.
Claude
For Trainzers, the cheapest way to get into making DEM maps for Trainz is through freeware like MicroDEM, then converting the graphic files generated in that program to a .gnd file with HOG (Hand of God). There's a tutorial here... http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/...rrainGeneration/Computer-generatedTerrain.htm It includes links to obtain all the programs and files you'll need and instructions on setting it up.
There's a payware system called TranzDEM that integrates both processes into one program and can use a wider variety of graphic files to mark roads and track.
ClaudeDidn't know there was a free programme and in hindsight I recall Tranzdem. When finished my present first route attempt with the tramway i am considering doing the rail company in Ulster and had thought a map programme of some sort might be a consideration although I confesss not to being muchy of even al elementary techy! Thanks for the further info. Might look more closely and see which if any of the 2 mentioned are within my grey cells.
HOG (the free program) can be a struggle with routes outside the USA because of the difficulty in finding free-to-download data it can use.
TransDem (the payware option) would be your best bet for Ulster. Steep learning curve, but lots of support either through the forum or direct and IMHO worth every penny...
Andy
TransDem (the payware option) would be your best bet for Ulster. Steep learning curve, but lots of support either through the forum or direct and IMHO worth every penny...
Andy
...lots and lots and lots of artwork...!
8) Yes, Big Al, it would be nice if I had ⅛ the artistic abilities of our peers!
Here is the website for TransDEM. The Trainz Edition, includes the original program. There is a TE page that explains how it works.
I printed the 78 page manual, in color, 40 pages total, and put it in a 1" 3-ring binder, using a copy of page 1 as a cover page
TransDEM Trainz Edition, costs €21.9(Euros) US$33.65, via PayPal, and well worth it, in my opinion, to create elevation maps, and topo tiles, for use in Surveyor.
8) Yes, Big Al, it would be nice if I had ⅛ the artistic abilities of our peers!
Here is the website for TransDEM. The Trainz Edition, includes the original program. There is a TE page that explains how it works.
I printed the 78 page manual, in color, 40 pages total, and put it in a 1" 3-ring binder, using a copy of page 1 as a cover page
TransDEM Trainz Edition, costs €21.9(Euros) US$33.65, via PayPal, and well worth it, in my opinion, to create elevation maps, and topo tiles, for use in Surveyor.
Hi,
I use it always now for my Paris maps. At first you need to change your approach of routebuilding. But when you got use to it you cant live without this great proggie. Its the first time because of this program i have so mutch fun to build the routes of my dreams.
greetz laika:wave:
I use it always now for my Paris maps. At first you need to change your approach of routebuilding. But when you got use to it you cant live without this great proggie. Its the first time because of this program i have so mutch fun to build the routes of my dreams.
greetz laika:wave:
Agree with Paulsw2. Using TransDEM for first time to map the route from Weymouth to Bournemouth and probably up to London. Once you get the hang of it, you get really good results. My only comment is the lack of decent UK DEM data.
Paulsw2 , or anyone, - have you found a good accurate data source of UK DEM data? or do you use Geophil's recommended SRTM data from the NASA site? I find I have to do a lot of rework with their data to get an accurate ground profile
Paulsw2 , or anyone, - have you found a good accurate data source of UK DEM data? or do you use Geophil's recommended SRTM data from the NASA site? I find I have to do a lot of rework with their data to get an accurate ground profile
A bit off topic, but I was wondering about HOG and DEM. Can I apply HOG and DEM after I lay down my tracks? Or do I do HOG and DEM first before laying tracks? Also, do I have to build my whole basebard set before HOG and DEM?
I plan on creating a 0% grade 4-track mainline route throughout, with several branches (they may have grades). The route will probably have 200+ baseboards or more, as it's gonna be about 100 miles long or so.
I plan on creating a 0% grade 4-track mainline route throughout, with several branches (they may have grades). The route will probably have 200+ baseboards or more, as it's gonna be about 100 miles long or so.
Work-flow is similar for all tool-generated terrain with TransDEM, MapMaker or MicroDEM/HOG: You build the terrain before you lay the tracks. TransDEM and MapMaker also support modules, i.e. you can seamlessly merge "baseboard sets" provided they cover adjoining areas. HOG does not have a static or built-in mapping of real world to Trainz coordinates and therefore does not support seamless merging.
geophil
Thats the German-looking website I found. I saw all the screenshots, but I can't seem to find a download URL to download the TransDEM. Some pages are in German, which I have no understanding of.
