constar261
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Is there anyone who is interested in creating a large custom bridge?
Custom bridge
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constar261
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how do I find him he doesn't frequent the forums much
Ben actually frequents the forums quite a bit. If you open the "MyTrainz" tab at the top of this forum page, and in the left hand navigation panel on the left hand side of the resulting page, you scroll down until you see "community", and click search under that heading, you can type the name "bendorsey" in the appropriate box, and it will bring up the page to contact him.
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I got your PM about this 2 days ago.
I noticed your post about it in my topic yesterday.
Replying to it simply did not end high enough on my "ToDo" list.
I first thought you were actually interested in an extension of my Oresund bridge. That could have been done as a side project somewhere the next two months, but based on your posting about this request I doubt I can match the speed of your need.
If I am wrong about that, contact me via PM, send me a lot more details; what are you offering, what are you asking, etc.
I noticed your post about it in my topic yesterday.
Replying to it simply did not end high enough on my "ToDo" list.
I first thought you were actually interested in an extension of my Oresund bridge. That could have been done as a side project somewhere the next two months, but based on your posting about this request I doubt I can match the speed of your need.
If I am wrong about that, contact me via PM, send me a lot more details; what are you offering, what are you asking, etc.
As has been said above please post a photo from as close to directly from the side as possible.
Keep in mind I am in the process of moving from Florida to Tennessee so at some point in the near future I'll be off line for at least a month - possibly longer. If you are in a hurry - someone else making it for you might be a better choice.
Ben
Keep in mind I am in the process of moving from Florida to Tennessee so at some point in the near future I'll be off line for at least a month - possibly longer. If you are in a hurry - someone else making it for you might be a better choice.
Ben
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Based on the PM he send me earlier, he wants and extreme version of my Oresund bridge (but it might be that he just wants an extreme bridge):
Hoping for some more details
.Based on the PM he send me earlier, he wants and extreme version of my Oresund bridge (but it might be that he just wants an extreme bridge):
Hoping for some more details
That makes sense for an awfully scary bridge to cross in a high wind!
I crossed over a much lower bridge during hurricane Ivan in my old Toyota Celica and I stuck to the middle lane doing 20 kph! I was too scared I would blow off the bridge!
John
Think the big difference, John, is that the area the Oresund bridge is build in does not see much of that extreme weather :hehe:.
I liked making huge bridges and was even busy with a new project for one till I discovered how annoying TANE handles LOD for large objects. The 1280m bridge I had nearly finished was already on LOD level 3 when standing at the start of the bridge (so 640m from the centre of the actual span). I am considering just dumping it on the DLS in its current state so at least people with TS12 get to enjoy it.
I liked making huge bridges and was even busy with a new project for one till I discovered how annoying TANE handles LOD for large objects. The 1280m bridge I had nearly finished was already on LOD level 3 when standing at the start of the bridge (so 640m from the centre of the actual span). I am considering just dumping it on the DLS in its current state so at least people with TS12 get to enjoy it.
There's an interesting discussion on this regard in the Trainz Dev forum. Martin had asked some questions. The answer is to break the object up into sections. though not the one you would want to hear.
If you post the assets, I'll see if I can use them.
The weather usually isn't that extreme, but it sure was a tiring and scary drive home from Portland Maine.
I could not find the specific thread (and I wonder if I am allowed to post there), but feel free to put this in there on my behalf:
Someone forgot to consider "user friendliness" and the fact that it defies the idea behind LOD (less polies on the lowest level) when giving that answer.
On that new project, I currently have 4 levels of LOD, the lowest being 715 (which I think is next to nothing for a 1280m bridge, yet still above 500). If I would break up the bridge in say 5 objects with the lowest LOD level being 400 (because "why bother when below 500" plus a minimum reduction of 500 is suggested) the end result is 2000 in total.
More polies, more work for the developer and a harder to use asset for the users. In short: Fix the system
.You might want to take a look here:
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?121697-large-object-LOD
This is the thread I was talking about. If you need me to post anything on this, let me know and I'll do that on your behalf.
Friendliness and content creation?
John
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?121697-large-object-LOD
This is the thread I was talking about. If you need me to post anything on this, let me know and I'll do that on your behalf.
Friendliness and content creation?
John
Breaking it into sections sounds good (unless you are the gent that has to do the breaking).:hehe:
Consider my Tay River Bridge: 3 miles long, 53 separate im files, and over 750,000 polys. N3V will instantly say that s a prime candidate for LOD but is it really? How many items like that will you have in a scene? Even items at one mile length would almost never have more then 2 (a RR bridge and an auto bridge side by side). Everything else is water. Obviously there is no way in hades of reducing it to a single im file of less then 500 polys.
If LOD works the way I think it does I would have to convert each of the 53 existing im files to three levels for LOD. That's 159 im files and the added complexity in the config file turns into the Great American Novel.
I can see the necessity of LOD. T:ANE can render items at much farther distances so some method of getting rid of all those unseen polys is a must. But is N3V's one-size-fit-all LOD system really what is needed? I think not. Some method of exempting very large items would be a good start. Perhaps base it on measuring the distance between the first and last track attachment point. How many items other then those having track attachment points are there that long? I can't think of a single one. If the distance is less the 1000 feet (perhaps 500 at a bare minimum) its subject to LOD. Over that its not.
LOD is a good idea but methinks a bit of common sense needs to be applied.
Ben
Consider my Tay River Bridge: 3 miles long, 53 separate im files, and over 750,000 polys. N3V will instantly say that s a prime candidate for LOD but is it really? How many items like that will you have in a scene? Even items at one mile length would almost never have more then 2 (a RR bridge and an auto bridge side by side). Everything else is water. Obviously there is no way in hades of reducing it to a single im file of less then 500 polys.
If LOD works the way I think it does I would have to convert each of the 53 existing im files to three levels for LOD. That's 159 im files and the added complexity in the config file turns into the Great American Novel.
I can see the necessity of LOD. T:ANE can render items at much farther distances so some method of getting rid of all those unseen polys is a must. But is N3V's one-size-fit-all LOD system really what is needed? I think not. Some method of exempting very large items would be a good start. Perhaps base it on measuring the distance between the first and last track attachment point. How many items other then those having track attachment points are there that long? I can't think of a single one. If the distance is less the 1000 feet (perhaps 500 at a bare minimum) its subject to LOD. Over that its not.
LOD is a good idea but methinks a bit of common sense needs to be applied.
Ben
Eastern, central, or western Tennessee? Northern or southern Tennessee? I thought that people fly south for the winter, not north.
norfolksouthern37
what's a normal map?
It is much nicer here than Florida.
In my case its:
1. Almost all the kids, grandkids, and great grandkids (I'm an old fart) are within a 2 hour drive radius in TN.
2. My wife and I no longer need to rattle around like ball bearings in a tin can in a 4800 square foot house.
3. South Florida is expensive. We live on a fixed income but everything else in our life keeps going up. TN is far less expensive. A house that sells for $75,000 there sells for $275,000 here.
4. Condo commandos (and if you do not know what they are consider yourself fortunate).
5. Snowbirds (ditto #4).
Down side #1: I had to tear my 14'6" by 40' HOn3 model RR apart. Took 15 years to build it and 2 weeks to dismantle it. Gave most of the stuff to the local model RR club (but not those very expensive brass locos - I'm crazy but not that crazy)
Daughter lives in a little town called Culleoka which is literally a wide spot in the road (less then 6 buildings). We will most likely end up in Lewisburg around 5 miles away. Both of them are about 50 miles south of Nashville.
Down side #2: I don't like country western music (I'm gonna be in deep doodoo up there, lol).
Have a buyer and house should be sold sometime this week. Gives us a month to finish packing and get gone.
Down side#3: Going from an 8/3 to a 3/2 means we have more junk to get rid of then you can imagine. Charles Darwin was wrong in Origin of Species - humans are not descended from apes - we are descended from pack rats and I have the "pack" (of junk) to prove it.:hehe:
Ben
1. Almost all the kids, grandkids, and great grandkids (I'm an old fart) are within a 2 hour drive radius in TN.
2. My wife and I no longer need to rattle around like ball bearings in a tin can in a 4800 square foot house.
3. South Florida is expensive. We live on a fixed income but everything else in our life keeps going up. TN is far less expensive. A house that sells for $75,000 there sells for $275,000 here.
4. Condo commandos (and if you do not know what they are consider yourself fortunate).
5. Snowbirds (ditto #4).
Down side #1: I had to tear my 14'6" by 40' HOn3 model RR apart. Took 15 years to build it and 2 weeks to dismantle it. Gave most of the stuff to the local model RR club (but not those very expensive brass locos - I'm crazy but not that crazy)
Daughter lives in a little town called Culleoka which is literally a wide spot in the road (less then 6 buildings). We will most likely end up in Lewisburg around 5 miles away. Both of them are about 50 miles south of Nashville.
Down side #2: I don't like country western music (I'm gonna be in deep doodoo up there, lol).
Have a buyer and house should be sold sometime this week. Gives us a month to finish packing and get gone.
Down side#3: Going from an 8/3 to a 3/2 means we have more junk to get rid of then you can imagine. Charles Darwin was wrong in Origin of Species - humans are not descended from apes - we are descended from pack rats and I have the "pack" (of junk) to prove it.:hehe:
Ben
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Surprisingly, I used to live just about an half-hour north of you, just north of Spring Hill, Tennessee. We lived in the first house on the left on Witt Hill, Dr., located on the Williamson-Maury county state line. I still remember the ice cream truck coming down the road and how we would routinely stop it and get ice cream. I also once rode the bus home from school to find my grandmother waiting in the driveway for me. I will note that there's a strip mall located on the other side of US Highway 31/Tennessee State Highway 6, which wasn't there when I live there. Keep in mind that I lived there during the mid 90's, moving to my previous residence in the suburbs of Atlanta in '96. Also, the Mid-South Live Steamers are about a half-hour away from Lewisburg in Columbia. I don't know if you will be there in time or not, but they will have their annual Fall Meet will be in September 24th-26th. It's one of the two times each year where the public can ride these little trains, the other time is during the Spring Meet. Worth noting is that the Mid-South Live Steamers Spring Meet fell on Mother's Day and the Fall Meet fell on my Mom's birthday also, so she had to give up one of those two days dedicated to her so that I could go ride those little steamers.