Cannot remove portals.

[kgeminiboy2]

Hi all. My problem is on a route I'm building, I've placed a portal at the end of a branch line. It's not connected to any track yet, but I want to move it to line up with the track. I cant move it or delete it. All I can do is rotate it. Neither can I sink it below ground. What is the answer to getting it moved please.

 

[fran1]

Your clicking on the front spline point when trying to delete ? You must be in the route layer also.

 

[kgeminiboy2]

Hi fran1. There is only 1 session in this route. I've clicked the middle and both spline points. If I'm not in route layer, how do I get there? Thanks for your quick reply.

 

[fran1]

Hi fran1. There is only 1 session in this route. I've clicked the middle and both spline points. If I'm not in route layer, how do I get there? Thanks for your quick reply.

Click on the tab on the right that looks like a small pile of books, both layers then show,whichever one is brighter than the other is the one your in. You need route layer to delete the portal and do any trackwork.
Or select routes, scroll down to yours, highlight that, then select edit route.

 

[kgeminiboy2]

Wow Fran1....I never knew that. All sorted. Thank you very much.

 

[Dermmy]

You need route layer to delete the portal and do any trackwork....

Woa! I agree that the issue with the portal is a layer thing and you gotta be on the same layer to delete it. The 'trackwork' comment though is not right - I never ever ever work in Surveyor on any layer other than the session layer. Never....

 

[fran1]

Woa! I agree that the issue with the portal is a layer thing and you gotta be on the same layer to delete it. The 'trackwork' comment though is not right - I never ever ever work in Surveyor on any layer other than the session layer. Never....

Obviously I'm wrong then,

 

[ZecMurphy]

I think I should point out that we definitely do not recommend building your route in the session layer...

There's two reasons for this.

The first is that your route/scenery will not be in the route itself, hence if you create a new session, you end up with items missing from the route. Click on 'edit route' and you'll see what I mean.

The second is due to a known, but currently unresolved, bug in Trainz that will cause junction levers (on junctions built in the session layer) to disappear if you 'resume' a session (save within Driver, then resume later).

It's possible that there may also be other issues in building your route in the session layer that are not yet known, haven't been reported (or pinpointed to using the session layer). Doing this hasn't been tested as extensively as, say, a route built in the route layer, as it's not something that we want to see route builders do.

That's not to say session specific items shouldn't be in the session layer. For example, additional signals or speed signs, or even extra track if absolutely required...

Regards

 

[Dermmy]

In Ts10 if you load the route you lose all session settings, YARN intersections. ATLS settings etc. Same I believe in TS12 up to the latest MP build. So to edit the route you have to load the session.

I didn't advocate leaving stuff on the session layer, I regularly merge the session into the route, and that puts everything pretty much where it belongs. My post was to correct the impression given that you had to be on the route layer to lay or manipulate track. I load the session, work on the session and save-as to create a new route and session every save. Every so often I remember to merge the session into the route, but ever route I've built or released in TS10 has had everything done on the session layer, start to finish...