Building the United Kingdom

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L1ONHEART

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Hi there people! I'm new to the forum. I have had TRS2004 for years, and sticking with it as I hardly play this game.

I have decided to create the WHOLE of the United Kingdom on TRS2004, I know it might sound like a long shot! But I am determined to make this work and be successful with my project throughout 2011.. maybe 2012 because it's such a big map. I actually started this project at the start of 2010 but called it off as I thought there's no way I can keep this up, but now I've got back to work on it and as I said I'm determined to complete it.

I'm not using Ordnance Survey detailed maps, I'm using a general road atlas which is 4 miles to 1 inch. So everytime I'm extending the map each square represents that 4 miles. Of course I've come to realise that the scale on my map won't be real. I'm using all the resources I can get for accuracy including pictures of places, google maps, etc..

When I've completed this map, hopefully I'll be able to upload it somewhere so you people can download it, so I'm hoping you guys still have TRS2004??

I will keep you informed on the progress of this project when I can. I will post screenshots here every now and then..

Please if you have any questions or suggestions about my project then do so reply here.

Cheers,
Ollie
 
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Good luck then. I suggest to connect Leamington Spa and Warwick for a start.

The Ants by Joachim Ringelnatz
"There once were two ants in Westphalia
Who wanted to go to Australia.
But cursing their feet
In a Belgian street
They gave up the trip as a failya."

English translation by Ernest A. Seemann

In the German original the ants start in Hamburg and make it as far as Altona, about the same distance as from Leamington Spa to Warwick.
 
Yes, good luck to you, I hope you've got the stamina to complete it within your timescale!

Currently I am doing approx 16 sq. miles of N. Wales - Llangollen railway, with the help of Transdem. I've been at it for a few months now but nowhere near finished, another 2-3 years perhaps.
 
Well you have a big heart LIONHEART. What is ut around 11,000 miles. Heavens I am having enough problems and zilches along the way just buliding what is left in Ulster (!). I think you will find this a trying challenge though.
 
I shall do my best.

But I can't seem to take screenshots by pressing the 'print screen' button, when I try to paste the image all I get is a big black square pasted.. anybody else got this problem? I'm using Windows Vista.
 
I shall do my best.

But I can't seem to take screenshots by pressing the 'print screen' button, when I try to paste the image all I get is a big black square pasted.. anybody else got this problem? I'm using Windows Vista.

EDIT: This is no April Fools Day thing lol! I'm serious about this new map I'm building. Will be working on more of it today.
 
Nightmare returns-destined to be held up by damn gremlins

A while back my N. Irish rail project was badly hamepered on moving up from 06 to 09. I found long stretches for miles where grass embankments on both sides had gone. Where the scenery was lower it all raised up to the level of the railway with towns, roads and stuff all riased up to the same height. To top it all I got scores of miles of dotted white lines. Someone did tell me how to try and get rid of them but the sorting out of over 30 bridge heights, srurrounding scenery, etc has held me back weeks. So I thought now was "At last back to building."And this week was glad to et back to that until Thursday night. On going back on I find places where the lines have appeared again (!). To top that 36 bridges have totally vanished with the track of course in mid air. On top of that I have counted at least 111 sets of points (switches) that have also disappeared.

So ince again I must put 2 dozen bridges back in - unlike before they were stil there but niot this time so extra time all round. Getting the points back in is the easiest and quick problem but I seem destined to get hed back when by now I should have been much further on. Being hit twice by this type of thing is frustrating and I wasn't so far on would just give up the Northern Railway project. Gettin

This means going back over the two lines fully completed again. Think I will continue do some building and do the bridges in stages as I would just get fed up going back over and over on old ground rather than get on with the other 4 routes. That way I can hold on to motivation.

Damnable yet again is one of the leser thoughts right now.
 
L1ONHEART said:
EDIT: This is no April Fools Day thing lol! I'm serious about this new map I'm building. Will be working on more of it today.
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Right. Now contemplate the following Gedankenexperiment:

  • Book a football stadium.
  • Get hold of the entire series of O/S 1: 50,000 "Landranger" topographic maps in paper form (about 200 sheets).
  • Take them to the football pitch and start spreading them out. Stitch them together. You will have to cut off Cornwall and Scotland, the pitch would not be big enough.
  • Have a brief look at the blue grid lines. They mark the 1000 m coordinate grid. These lines a 2 cm apart, a 1:50,000 map is 2 cm to 1 km.
  • A Trainz baseboard is 720 x 720 m. That is 1.44 x 1.44 cm on your map. Now start drawing new grid lines on your map, 1.44 cm apart. Remember that the maps cover your entire football pitch. You will end up with about 500,000 baseboard grid squares.
  • Mark all baseboard grid squares with railway lines on it. Add two or three grid squares on each side. Count them. How many? 100,000?
  • Collect your maps and leave the stadium. Visit the next pub and have a pint.
  • Make your calculation. How much time per baseboard? Anything between one hour and one week? Let's assume one day. 100,000 days then. 300 years for your football pitch. No way. Reduce to one hour per baseboard. 10 years altogether, working 24/7. And not much you can do in 60 minutes. Have another pint.
 
And think how long it will take you to save up for the super computer (not PC)
to run it. You are either having us on or have no concept whatsoever of the work involved in making even the smallest route. Learn to walk before you run.
 
2 Years 3 months so far on a 40 mile narrow gauge route, if its going to be anything like realistic it will take a very very long time to do the whole country.

While I'm all for enthusiasm, it is really best to start small, concentrate on some part of the UK that hasn't or isn't already being done.
 
I agree that the whole UK by one person is completely unfeasible. I'm using TransDEM to do an 80 mile route and although that takes the topography out the equation, I'm still working on the first couple of miles after over 2 months work.

LIONHEART, I don't want to dishearten you but you may have bitten off a bit more than you can chew if you're aiming to produce a quality route. Good luck if you decide to procede however.
 
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