Attack of the killer vegetation

[Lo_Poly]

Looking through the screenshots forum (try looking at the euro related thread), I noticed a lot had insane amounts of vegetation in them. As in, crazy amounts.

Now, on my older computer (which is dead, hehehehehe), if I tried to use that amount of veggie the computer would probably explode.

Now on this new computer (Core 2 Duo E6600, 88000GTX), I've tried using that much veggie just as a test and the fps will drop to a little below 20. Mind you that's not that bad, but I'd just like to know what fps you get with that kind of thing.

Example:

Just curious

 

[lewisner]

I"ve gone veggie crazy since discovering JVC"s products, though nothing on the scale of your photo.But, its a tradeoff between framerates and the look of the lineside so I"ll happily sacrifice the former for the latter...

 

[ex-railwayman]

Hello Lo_Poly, on my clapped out old laptop, I would probably get between 0 - 1 fps on a scene like that....:hehe:

Subsequently, it all depends on the specs of your computer, I'm certain some trainzers can get 15 or 20 or maybe even 30 fps on something like this.......:mop:
Must get my letter written to Santa very soon for a new PC...:hehe:

Cheerz. ex-railwayman. :wave:

 

[StorkNest]

That's interesting, haven't seen that before.

Also depends on how many different trees/grasses/etc are used.

Say that picture uses 20-30 different trees. If you changed the route by replacing one half with the other leaving 10-15 trees, the FPS increases since fewer models are loaded.

Additionally, it could be one or more items of high poly count causing low FPS. I had a route that ran low FPS, it had a certain item of vegetation in it that had several hundred polys. I spent some time looking for a similar looking item with less polys and subbed it for the higher one, FPS went up ~15 just from replacing that one item.

 

[dnutter]

Holy!!!!!!!! Guess I can't. Because if would have more many any object like vegetation, building, other stuffs will have cause my computer TRS2006 game become as freeze and very powerful of slowing! So that why I need take careful on my computer whole time but take later soon I try buy the Nivida Graphic Video, Graphic Card and Memory Card that it

 

[deeelare]

It is the same problem over and over again, if your system can't handle it, downsize the polys (changing to a lower poly ground cover) or upgrade your system !
If your PC is 'up to date', these items look very nice and Trainz will not stutter. I am using them and glad they were created, they easily fill an area with vegetation that is quite realistic looking.

I began with the minimum to run 2006, and found areas of routes where the fps was very poor, upgraded
my MB, PCU, ram, graphics card, worked wonders !


Lo_poly, not an exact answer to you, but just a bit of input .

---DLR

 

[Vern]

JVC and Perfect Trees are taking over my Swedish route WIP at present! However I figure for a European route laying grass splines etc alongside the track is offset compared to a UK route by not having to lay fences and telegraph poles. Modelling a wilderness route there's not much in the way of buildings and when you do get to the towns and small villages, one simply scales back the vegetation.

My development is also done on a clapped out Compaq Presario 3000 series laptop with a < 1Ghz CPU and Geforce 4200 integrated graphics, which is as good a control as any as regards optimisation.

Incidentally that first screenshot looks better than the EA Rail Sim and very lifelike.

 

[BidMod]

Hello Lo_Poly, on my clapped out old laptop, I would probably get between 0 - 1 fps on a scene like that....:hehe:

I think my desktop can trump that - I'd get 1-2fps (on a good day with a tailwind).

I'm really impressed with scenes like that though - full compliments to the creators. I just wish I could reproduce them myself.

BidMod

 

[lewisner]

Bidmod you could by using Copy and Paste. I"ve got quite a few dense forests but they don"t seem to have too much effects on frames yet.Incidentally isn"t it interesting re an earlier poster"s point about "not having fences on European railways"? 1) The UK is "part" of Europe (I wish it wasn"t) but it seems the EU aren"t worried about the lack of fences. 2) There are seperate sections in Screenshots for "UK Screenshots" and "European Screenshots"?

 

[Vern]

Yes it's a peculiarity of UK transport health and safety law that even the most remote, uninhabited section of line must be fenced off from adjacent land or roads. There is even a rather crazy blame culture at work where, on the odd occasion vandals have made a hole in the fence, then someone takes a short cut or a kid goes through then gets killed by a train, the public perception is that the railway is responsible as they didn't mend the fence. Hence the reason why, whenever we receive reports of defective or broken fencing in the railway control, staff are despatched as a matter of urgency to fix it.

I daresay sections of the LGV and other high speed lines in Europe are fenced though.