As if another reason to cancel was really needed!
- Thread starter Euphod
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Well just to keep that in mind (!).
I think that the lady in question is a bit off the mark to put it nicely. SNCF was a State rail company and considering the situation of Nazi control over France, Vichy and direct (later all of France) what can we expect the railways to do? Indeed the controversy is a load of nonsense. In a defeated country controlled by the Nazis what does she expect? This Holocaust use for just about everything and now railways is a tad overdone. What's next - postmen, policemen, dustbin men and so on? The railway could hardly do much else but obey could they? To use this spurious nonsense to block an efficient French company today is over the top and a bit ridiculous.
I think that the lady in question is a bit off the mark to put it nicely. SNCF was a State rail company and considering the situation of Nazi control over France, Vichy and direct (later all of France) what can we expect the railways to do? Indeed the controversy is a load of nonsense. In a defeated country controlled by the Nazis what does she expect? This Holocaust use for just about everything and now railways is a tad overdone. What's next - postmen, policemen, dustbin men and so on? The railway could hardly do much else but obey could they? To use this spurious nonsense to block an efficient French company today is over the top and a bit ridiculous.
It looks like they'll be taking people to the Walt Disney World concentration camp, instead. 
Really though we all know it will be an American company that will get the job... or they'll want to build the SNCF rolling stock over there instead of shipping it from France.
Really though we all know it will be an American company that will get the job... or they'll want to build the SNCF rolling stock over there instead of shipping it from France.
TweetsieDude
Back Woods Narrow Gauge
I can somewhat understand. I'm not sure if the Nazi's are a good escape goat, but I have a feeling the real reason behind her motives, is the fact they're looking at a nationalized rail system. Our country is a free market society, unless our government continues more regulation, spending, and more scholastic bills, that govern too much. Ever since our government took over the Passenger system, with Amtrak, there have been delays, and other stuff; I do understand the reasons why Amtrak was created, but passenger service comes and goes. I wish there was still privately owned passenger service. Southern Crescent, Daylight, Blue Comment, to name the more popular ones.
I understand there are political view differences. Please respect my opinion.
Rock On!
Dusten
I understand there are political view differences. Please respect my opinion.
Rock On!
Dusten
Amtrakid17
Route maker in the works
Alright im jewish but seriously that was world war 2 and they were threatend like crazy so you cant really make this big of a deal about it.
Thank you my freind! My point exactly! As a resident of Tampa Bay, I can say we need this!
Amtrakid17
Route maker in the works
And sncf is french not german thats db so its like whats the tie even though they transported them hitler forced a helf of alot of people do stuff they didnt want to...
I just don't agree with the interstate highway concept in the first place. If it was needed, if it could be profitable, if it could operate WITHOUT government props underneath, then it would have already been built. Interstate highways are the past... just like solar power.
I have got to agree, if it's a lame duck straight out of the starting gate, which needs government money, with no hope of making it viable. It’s far better to cancel the project, before it becomes a millstone around your necks, and yet another tax burden, on the poor old tax payer.
William0d0
Active member
Oh great, another rail project where a few benefit and everyone else gets stuck footing the bill.
TweetsieDude
Back Woods Narrow Gauge
Why is it political?
This is an economic issue. HSR is great for rail fans and commuters lacking another viable option, but can it be profitable enough to exist (let alone be built from the ground up, and then placed into operation) without subsidies? If not; then what's the point?
Of all the HSR in the world, I believe I've heard of only one that is self sufficient, and only because all other options were removed. Most light rail could be effectively replaced by buses, and the demand for HSR is mostly manufactured.
Windmills are great, but they can't possibly generate enough power to overtake coal or nuclear plants.
I like trains and all that, but not enough to cheer lead for an economic boondoggle involving one.
This is an economic issue. HSR is great for rail fans and commuters lacking another viable option, but can it be profitable enough to exist (let alone be built from the ground up, and then placed into operation) without subsidies? If not; then what's the point?
Of all the HSR in the world, I believe I've heard of only one that is self sufficient, and only because all other options were removed. Most light rail could be effectively replaced by buses, and the demand for HSR is mostly manufactured.
Windmills are great, but they can't possibly generate enough power to overtake coal or nuclear plants.
I like trains and all that, but not enough to cheer lead for an economic boondoggle involving one.
Red_Rattler
Since 09 May 2003
At Auran, I am not sorry about talking politics about rail transport
I tried to let people in this section know about the NSW government closing more lines, yet Auran saw fit to restrict speech, just because a RAIL RELATED subject had politics in it, so long as people don't preach about their side politics.
Perhaps the non-European west should look into their OWN BACKYARDS before they criticise.
At Auran: I am not sorry about talking politics when it has to do with RAIL RELATED transport.
Becuase almost all decisions ARE political do with public transport, roads, etc., wether Auran tries to restrict speech on politics or not. That's why Auran should let the prototype section to talk politics (in relation to RAIL RELATED transport).
I tried to let people in this section know about the NSW government closing more lines, yet Auran saw fit to restrict speech, just because a RAIL RELATED subject had politics in it, so long as people don't preach about their side politics.
Perhaps the non-European west should look into their OWN BACKYARDS before they criticise.
At Auran: I am not sorry about talking politics when it has to do with RAIL RELATED transport.
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you people amaze me and not in a good way! This is something future generations need and don't pull out who will use nonsense! Commuters, tourists, people exacuvating inland to avoid hurricanes. Plus it also make Florida a more attractive option for the summer olympics. If you look at most high-speed rail networks across the world their run by a railroad controlled by the goverment. ICE in Germany, The Shinkasen Bullet trains, Eurostar, TGV run by SNCF in France plus Spain's high speed rail, China's high speed rail, Britian's high speed rail. Even our own Acela in America is run by Amtrak which is funded by the Goverment. So If you like economic opporunties, transportation variety, less relying on oil, and want a better enviroment. Then Rail is for you!