Tony_Hilliam
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This isn’t really true. Yes, there may be some people who fit that description. There are also many people who are already forming groups to collaborate on routes, even though the tools don’t actually facilitate this- this has been going on for years. And of course, there are a lot of people who don’t have the time or experience to create a large-scale project by themselves, but who would love to contribute to something a bit more light-hearted.
Never going to work. Most content creators work in their own creative bubble and building a route occupies enough time without having to manage a potentially precocious group of prima-donna associate team members.
You’re right, this allows 3D modellers and a single route builder to work together (or if really organised, one or two others) - but it does nothing to allow route builders to work with each other, which is the problem that we’re addressing here.
Trainz already supports a synergy for route builders by way of the DLS, where the 3D modellers and texture creators upload their work, which the route builders then choose as necessary to incorporate in their projects.
I don’t see much point in comparing what we are doing with what somebody else failed to do. Maybe there are similarities. Maybe there aren’t. Time will tell.
Don't try and re-invent the wheel and certainly don't try peddling what also seems a bit of a poor man's attempt to emulate MS ambition for their (second) attempt at MSTS with "World of Rails”.
We’re not asking or expecting the entire user base to convert over to this system. Other options will be available. We’re just providing a new option for the people who want it, and we believe that quite a few people will in fact want it. And historically Trainz has been pretty much equal between the creative aspect and the driving aspect.People want to drive trains and build routes. Mostly by themselves with a very small % perhaps interested in some sort of online co-operation
We’re not asking or expecting the entire user base to convert over to this system. Other options will be available.
Perhaps you could outline the other option please, as I'm considerably confused?
Where did you read that? I guess my "between the lines" glasses need cleaning.Me too, just what do the rest of us loyal Trainz supporters get out of Trainz Next, if we are not interested in online editing or subscriptions?
Do we get left with an out of date unsupported TANE and left to fade into the sunset?
I was under the impression that the Next version would be further development on the TANE base, not going off in a new direction. Seems to be nothing for those of us who do not wish to get involved in on-line Editing which will probably spell the end of Trainz as we know it.![]()
Once again I will stress (although I am getting tired of the repeating myself) that Next does not mean the end for TANE. Of course new features are required to continue moving forward. And of course not everyone is going to want to be part of this vision. BUT, everyone will want to check out the improved content along with the new features we introduce.
Me too, just what do the rest of us loyal Trainz supporters get out of Trainz Next, if we are not interested in online editing or subscriptions?
Do we get left with an out of date unsupported TANE and left to fade into the sunset?
I was under the impression that the Next version would be further development on the TANE base, not going off in a new direction. Seems to be nothing for those of us who do not wish to get involved in on-line Editing which will probably spell the end of Trainz as we know it.![]()
They've announce a new Trainz Driver, so I would presume that is your "other option." If I had to guess it'll be subscription based as well.
peter
What's not clear is if Trainz Next will be usable to build routes without having to go on line or pay subscriptions, if that could be confirmed then it's not quite such a big issue as I just won't use the online stuff. Or put another way is this just purely a paid for additional feature extra to what we normally get.
No way as a creator of Routes and content am I going to revert to an inferior driver only product that's not why I got Trainz in the first place.
Without getting into too many technicalities- if you aren't participating in the online community, then you can't drive or edit the online routes, but there's nothing stopping the owner from uploading a version of the route to the DLS (regardless of whether it was created online or offline.)
kind regards,
chris
It's great to see the crystal balls appearing and the discussion started. I remember when this guy Steve said ...[/INDENT]
Not interested in New online routes or collaborating, I prefer to do things myself. I just want to make my own routes and content on my own and upload to the DLS, so will Next do this or Not? If not it makes it kind of pointless having an option to suspend or not subscribe as it won't do anything and that can't be correct?WaindWalkr's comment here (bolded) seems to indicate that in order to use the 'new' routes one will have to have a subscription of some sort; unless the route author deems otherwise (and I can see that changing.)
Peter