Ya got me good this time. Paid about $98, for TS2010 & TS2012 (plus shipping) and what did I get? Two programs that are so full of bugs I need a can of Cyber RAID to kill them all. I can't even use 2010 and 2012 keeps wiping out everything I try to construct in Surveyor. I finally deleted both programs off the computer (before they damage it}. Guess I'll go see what the Germans have got............