Anyone else have problems merging routes in TS12?

[JCitron]

Hi guys,

Does anyone else here have a problem merging routes in TS12?

I have found that if the route is populated, i.e. has assets on it, Trainz will sit there with the disk grinding away like it's doing something, then crash to the desktop. It then brings up a send to the developer, or Microsoft a crash report box, and launches Outlook for me to mail away the report.

At first I thought it was my route being way too big, so I tried this on some smaller routes and the same thing happens.

Merging in blank baseboards works fine without any problems.

Desktop System Specs:

Processor: 2.667ghz i7
Memory: 8GB
Hard Disks: 3x - 1TB and 2x 2TB (all single drives no RAID0)
Video Card: ATI 6970 1GB.
Audio: SoundBlast XFi
Network: Dual RealTek Nic
Motherboard is ASUS and all up to date.

All drivers are current, I killed all unnecessary processes running, disconnected from the network, spun around in my chair and through up fairy dust, and it still happened. I figured the latter move would fix the problem, but I apparently dropped a dust spec someone and the fairies didn't catch all the crumbs.

The same thing happens on my Alienware M17x, which has similar specs except for smaller hard drives and different video card.

John

 

[bolivar]

Known issue. i sent the help desk an email concerning this problem. No answer and that was at least a month ago. I think one other has also sent email. The issue concerns layouts that have a merged size of over 35 Mg . I have given up on building stuff in TS12 and gone back to TRS2010 because of this problem and also the disappearing texture problem. Again others have noticed this one also. No response from Auran. Cheers.

 

[JCitron]

Known issue. i sent the help desk an email concerning this problem. No answer and that was at least a month ago. I think one other has also sent email. The issue concerns layouts that have a merged size of over 35 Mg . I have given up on building stuff in TS12 and gone back to TRS2010 because of this problem and also the disappearing texture problem. Again others have noticed this one also. No response from Auran. Cheers.

Thanks for the confirmation. I'll send Zec a message at the help desk. I'll throw in my findings on this issue, which include the program actually running out of memory. I saw it happen with some tools I have.

John

 

[targanon]

I've had no issues merging routes what routes are you trying to merge??

what is your system.. >?? Mine is very powerful and I don't seem to have any of the problems that some are having...

however I"m only new to the Trainz scene so I prolly aren't doing as much as you guys...

I am building a route and have merge into it a couple of times to get access to some assets ... I could have just placed them but some of them I have not idea how to setup yet so I cheated and placed them using the object in the route I merged as a guide...

Oh I just noticed your system spec's you should be having no issues caused by your system.

 

[Glenn52]

I have merged and currently testing:
CSX Saginaw Subdivision;
CN Holly Subdivision;
Conrail Lincoln Secondary;
Downtown Traction Company; and
Detroit Connecting Railroad.
5 routes into 1 and all going smoothly.

I did however encounter merging issues where Surveyor would freeze, and to get over this:-
Where I merged Route A and Route B to become Route C, I could not load Route C into Surveyor, and merge Route D 'into' Route C. I would load Route D and merge with the new Route C.

 

[targanon]

have you tried merging into a fresh boot of the game save all ya work and then cl;ose down trainz restart and then merge while its all fresh

 

[JCitron]

have you tried merging into a fresh boot of the game save all ya work and then cl;ose down trainz restart and then merge while its all fresh

I'll give this a try. The program seems to run out of memory as it merges the routes together. I watched this happen with Process Explorer - www.sysinternals.com The memory space runs out as the Trainz imports the other route. Once it's merged and returns back to the Surveyor landscape, the program crashes to the desktop.

I also have a substantial system.

i7 2.667gz, 8gb RAM, 3x had - 1tb + 2tb. With Trainz on its own 2 tb.
ATI 6970 video card, Soundblast Xfi Xtreme audio

All drivers up-to-date. Note: The ATI card is a recent purchase, and this happened before with my NVidia 470. I got the ATI to reduce the heat in my case, which it has done that as expected.

Thanks for the suggestion I will try a fresh install and see what happens.

John

 

[JCitron]

I tried merging two custom routes using a fresh install. This did not work.

I'll submit a detailed ticket to the help desk and see what they have to say.

Another Helpdesk ticket submitted with the same issue. This one with a ton, hopefully, of details that Aron and Zec can use.

Thanks for your suggestions and help on this, guys.

John