AJS Invisible Station Length

[Subway7695]

Good day everyone. I am running into a frustrating issue and would like to know if anyone or someone may help me. I'm creating a passenger enabled route and the issue and frustration I am running into is with the AJS invisible stations length.

The platform length is 165 meters(end piece-spline-end piece) with also the AJS invisible station which lines in perfect with the station.

Here's the issue the 10 passenger train sometimes short stops the station therefore some of the train is out the station with doors open,sometimes its vice versa overran. The AJS options I have it set as is its a "through" station and platform length of 165 meters.

Should I adjust the position of the AJS object itself as in move it more forward/back in the station or change the platform length option*within the AJS options*?

My goal is to get the passenger train to STOP very close to the front end of the station as well as have all the doors open so passengers enter/exit. The frustration comes from the constant adjustments in Surveyor mode then going to driver and seeing the AI short stopping or overrunning. Thank You.

 

[AntonyVW]

Where about is the train stopping in relation to the invisible station? What I mean is - is the center of your consist near the center of the invisible train? If so then you will need to move the invisible staion if you have the room. Or is it stopping so that the middle of the train is not near the center of the invisible station? In which case wht command are you using when the consist gets there? do you use te load/unload commands?

 

[Subway7695]

Where about is the train stopping in relation to the invisible station? What I mean is - is the center of your consist near the center of the invisible train? If so then you will need to move the invisible staion if you have the room. Or is it stopping so that the middle of the train is not near the center of the invisible station? In which case wht command are you using when the consist gets there? do you use te load/unload commands?

The station itself is an object,the AJS invisible where I attach the tracks is more towards the front of the station. And yes there is plenty of room because the AJS only covers maybe 75-100m(where the people are standing) but its very frustrating not knowing where to position the AJS compared to constantly moving it after each switch from Surveyor to Driver and vice versa seeing where the A.I stops. I use Navigate to "station"/load,navigate to...I dont use unload

 

[p-dehnert]

You have to use the Load command after the NavigateTo or DriveTo command. The driving commands stop the train at the beginning of the station. The Load command moves the train to the correct position for loading and starts the unloading+loading of passengers.

Peter

 

[Subway7695]

You have to use the Load command after the NavigateTo or DriveTo command. The driving commands stop the train at the beginning of the station. The Load command moves the train to the correct position for loading and starts the unloading+loading of passengers.

Peter

I do Navigate to,Load,Navigate to...etc(cyclic pattern) Navigate to sta1,load(doors open/close) navigate to sta2,load etc until the last stop but thats not an issue its the face the A.I is under/overrunning the platform thus doors being open outside of the platform

 

[Subway7695]

Hopefully this is a better explanation and understanding of the issue I am having which is rather frustrating.

Here is the station which consist of 2 obj pieces(ends) and a spline(canopy platform) along with the AJS attached. The station itself is 170meters.


Here is the setting for the AJS invisible station set at 160meters because the 10 car train itself is 155meters


Approximate train length measured from end to end.

I set everything up by measuring the length of the subway car consist roughly 155-157 meters.
AJS options is set for 160 meters
Platform length itself is a bit longer for lead way but has nothing to do with the length of the station.
The conclusion the A.I overruns the station by plenty and 9 of the 10 car doors open.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GAGdc3nWCI&feature=youtu.be

 

[andi06]

These objects were written for an older version of TRS and, even then, it was never possible to control the stopping position with any precision. Under TS2012 the accuracy appears to have declined considerably and most trains are overrunning their stopping positions by at least half a car length. This might be as a result of changes in braking physics.

The station length parameter is only used to work out how far up and down the train to look for passenger vehicles - it doesn't relate to the physical length of your station objects. If a car is found within this distance its doors will be opened.

If you use the option to Enable Stopping Reports you will see a browser every time a train stops at a station, the bottom two lines will show you how far the search has looked and how many cars it has found. To take account of the overshoot you will need to increase the station length. I've just had a look and found that under TS2012 I needed a station length of 140 metres to reliably open all the doors on a 103 metre train. In your case therefore I would be inclined to set the station length to 190 metres or so.

Looking at the stopping report over a reasonable number of calls will tell you if you can reduce this.

 

[Subway7695]

These objects were written for an older version of TRS and, even then, it was never possible to control the stopping position with any precision. Under TS2012 the accuracy appears to have declined considerably and most trains are overrunning their stopping positions by at least half a car length. This might be as a result of changes in braking physics.

The station length parameter is only used to work out how far up and down the train to look for passenger vehicles - it doesn't relate to the physical length of your station objects. If a car is found within this distance its doors will be opened.

If you use the option to Enable Stopping Reports you will see a browser every time a train stops at a station, the bottom two lines will show you how far the search has looked and how many cars it has found. To take account of the overshoot you will need to increase the station length. I've just had a look and found that under TS2012 I needed a station length of 140 metres to reliably open all the doors on a 103 metre train. In your case therefore I would be inclined to set the station length to 190 metres or so.

Looking at the stopping report over a reasonable number of calls will tell you if you can reduce this.

Thank You very much! This was much appreciated and makes great sense. Something I didn't know and wasnt aware of.