Buffalo_trains93
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Chris, I have to go back and change that because I was not told of the said link, my apologies for the confusion, the post is now edited to show I found the link.
Thank you, and take care,
Ryan:wave:
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Chris, I have to go back and change that because I was not told of the said link, my apologies for the confusion, the post is now edited to show I found the link.
Thank you, and take care,
Ryan:wave:
Unfortunately the pessimists amongst us have seen this:
...and assumed that it means that you will remove all of it eventually (read 'soon'). I can't see how this would make any sense for Auran or its customers, except in line with your DLS clean-up policy, but it could really do with a clarification on ALL of the threads (I've lost count) pertaining to this issue. I think the temperature in here would lower substantially if it was clear that only uncorrectable old assets will be ditched, and only after creators have had a chance to sort them out.
Paul
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Neither can I.
It's a tricky one to answer clearly. I'm loathe to make an overarching forward-looking statement because then (for example) in 5 years time when something changes, somebody will point to the statement and the whole discussion will start again.
About the best I can say is that we don't have any current plans to actively cull the DLS, and that anyone who says otherwise is looking to build a conspiracy theory.
That's not a promise that we won't do it in the future, because we probably will. But as you say above, it would be a pretty stupid move to take here and now - far too much of the content is still relevant. We want to improve the DLS, we don't want to kill it.
chris
Bearing in mind how much can change in 5 years, or how many times Auran have announced grand long term plans that come to nothing, I don't suppose anyone would really expect a statement now to hold much weight in the distant future.
I'm much more concerned at the apparently large number of Trainzers (including some quite notable and talented creators) who seem to be convinced that if they upload a Trainz build 2 item today, it will be wiped from the DLS on 1st September automatically. Common sense would suggest that this couldn't be true, but you know what they say about that...
As you know, conspiracy theories and rumours can flourish when there is no-one to authoritatively deny them, and pronouncements like that line in the end of support statements that are unintentionally vague are often interpreted in the most illogically extreme way. The last paragraph of your last post, for instance may well be taken by some as meaning "we definitely will remove all un-supported content from the DLS at a future date, just not yet". I don't suppose this is your intention, and I can understand that you can't make long term promises, but a commitment to retaining content that is being actively used (frequently downloaded, often used in routes etc) would not come amiss.
Paul
I'm much more concerned at the apparently large number of Trainzers (including some quite notable and talented creators) who seem to be convinced that if they upload a Trainz build 2 item today, it will be wiped from the DLS on 1st September automatically. Common sense would suggest that this couldn't be true, but you know what they say about that...
As you know, conspiracy theories and rumours can flourish when there is no-one to authoritatively deny them, and pronouncements like that line in the end of support statements that are unintentionally vague are often interpreted in the most illogically extreme way. The last paragraph of your last post, for instance may well be taken by some as meaning "we definitely will remove all un-supported content from the DLS at a future date, just not yet". I don't suppose this is your intention, and I can understand that you can't make long term promises, but a commitment to retaining content that is being actively used (frequently downloaded, often used in routes etc) would not come amiss.
Paul
I agree that our forward-looking statements haven't always been particularly reliable, and it's exactly for that reason that I'd like to avoid making them.
Unfortunately this is contradictory. I can either make long term promises, or I can't. It is safest for me to simply stand with my above statement:
.. we don't have any current plans to actively cull the DLS, and that anyone who says otherwise is looking to build a conspiracy theory.
I'm not sure how much more clear I can be. If anyone wants to build a conspiracy theory, I can't stop them. But I am willing to tell them to their face that it's a conspiracy theory.
chris
Thanks for clearing that up. Going by the many conspiracy theory's, there are a lot on the forums that think all 04/06 content is going to disappear in sept. Perhaps a clear statement from the start would have prevented so much animosity in the threads. Deleting so much content would have been suicide, replacing it over time with better assets as they are made is the way to go.
Which is kind of curious considering that the very article which sparked all this chatter says otherwise.
kind regards,
chris
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Buffalo_trains93
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Paul,
Please do not call me a pessimist. I am simply playing Devil's Advocate, which is rightfull in this situation, and, if you go and read my other posts in this thread, you will notice, (Mostley due to Chris's word, one I respect and trust) that TRS2010, is a stable and good platform. Like I said, I am simply playing devil's advocate, just to unearth answers for all who question the same thing, to help avoid the same question being asked 20,000 times. Granted, I was probably the 19,999, but I made an attempt, not only to clear up information from my own head, but from other's aswell.
Take care,
Ryan:wave:
NOTE: Please do not take anything I say in a rude or mean manner, it is never intended.
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Ryan,
Not at all. There are some much more paranoid voices on the forum at the moment who seem to be able to take an ambiguous statement, and spin it into an absolute certainty of the worst possible implication (or worse). It was your observation that only a tiny proportion of DLS content is 09 build and above that made me absolutely certain that the pessimists had it wrong.
All the best...
Paul
Not at all. There are some much more paranoid voices on the forum at the moment who seem to be able to take an ambiguous statement, and spin it into an absolute certainty of the worst possible implication (or worse). It was your observation that only a tiny proportion of DLS content is 09 build and above that made me absolutely certain that the pessimists had it wrong.
All the best...
Paul
Buffalo_trains93
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Paul,
I'm not quite sure what you mean by the last statement, there is only 1% and 1.5% of content on the DLS fro over 06.
Take care,
Ryan:wave:
I'm not quite sure what you mean by the last statement, there is only 1% and 1.5% of content on the DLS fro over 06.
Take care,
Ryan:wave:
Buffalo_trains93
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EdrickV,
Thank you very much for clearing that up. Alrighty, that takes care of that.
Take care,
Ryan:wave:
Thank you very much for clearing that up. Alrighty, that takes care of that.
Take care,
Ryan:wave: