Unable to resolve issue with download helper.Does anyone know of 2000 class diesel hydraulic used formerly by STA SOUTH AUSTRALIA known as the JUMBO if it is available to download somewhere.I have the TA SAR 3000 CLASS.both are still in use today and for the next 10 years probably. And thanks to the creators of all the content available its a really brilliant program.
2000 class diesal JUMBO
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beyer_garratt
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A long time ago there was one member promising to build them... the same one who built the somewhat mediocre 3000 class; but he vanished. 'Fraid you're out of luck unless someone else wants to have a go.
beyer_garratt
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Shameless plug:
While no digital version has been made... you can grab physical copies of them in HO Scale over at http://www.ozscale.com/
While no digital version has been made... you can grab physical copies of them in HO Scale over at http://www.ozscale.com/
If it is any help, I intend to create the 2000 (2100) and 3000 (3100) Classes DMUs in the near future. After I finish my SAR Bluebirds anytime real soon (TM) 
http://www.the-commander.com/screens.htm
The Bluebirds already have animated doors (they did not have any anim. doors in reality but if passengers invisibly can enter the DMU, they can also invisibly open the doors
), are passengers enabled, have already scripted drivers in the cab that is travelling forward, have already headlights on at daylight and changing headlights and marker lights thanks to Uwe Nagel's aka OpAmp excellent scripting talent. (Unashamed plug :hehe: )
There are only minor details to be done on these to finish them. Then on to create the above 2000 and 3000 classes with the 2100 and 3100 Classes engineless coaches with driver cabs with similar features as the SAR Bluebirds I just described above. I already have permission from TransAdelaide to take as many pictures as I like from their Adelaide rail yard, which I intend to do next week.
FYI
Cheers
VinnyBarb
http://www.the-commander.com/screens.htm
The Bluebirds already have animated doors (they did not have any anim. doors in reality but if passengers invisibly can enter the DMU, they can also invisibly open the doors
), are passengers enabled, have already scripted drivers in the cab that is travelling forward, have already headlights on at daylight and changing headlights and marker lights thanks to Uwe Nagel's aka OpAmp excellent scripting talent. (Unashamed plug :hehe: )There are only minor details to be done on these to finish them. Then on to create the above 2000 and 3000 classes with the 2100 and 3100 Classes engineless coaches with driver cabs with similar features as the SAR Bluebirds I just described above. I already have permission from TransAdelaide to take as many pictures as I like from their Adelaide rail yard, which I intend to do next week.
FYI
Cheers
VinnyBarb
beyer_garratt
New member
Damn. I disappear for a couple years and this is what I come back too. I'll have to grab those AN class, and every one of those buildings and signs from you now. You make my bandwidth sad.
SARRailways
Member
If it is any help, I intend to create the 2000 (2100) and 3000 (3100) Classes DMUs in the near future. After I finish my SAR Bluebirds anytime real soon (TM)
http://www.the-commander.com/screens.htm
The Bluebirds already have animated doors (they did not have any anim. doors in reality but if passengers invisibly can enter the DMU, they can also invisibly open the doors
There are only minor details to be done on these to finish them. Then on to create the above 2000 and 3000 classes with the 2100 and 3100 Classes engineless coaches with driver cabs with similar features as the SAR Bluebirds I just described above. I already have permission from TransAdelaide to take as many pictures as I like from their Adelaide rail yard, which I intend to do next week.
FYI
Cheers
VinnyBarb
Vinny is a legend, I downloaded the AN Class and they work beautifully. Even thought your bluebirds arent ready for download yet, the screenshots look pretty good. Electro is working on some 2000s now. I will eventually re-activate my account and download Electros and yours too Vinny.
Thanks, SARRailways
Progress report.......
I am redoing the AN Class diesels for TS09/TS10 at the moment, hence my hands are full with 3D work. The AN Class will be a very highly detailed diesel, after all I took well over 300 or more digital pictures of some of them (AN1 and AN3), have been 4 times on top of two of them (also AN3 + AN1) to take detailed digital pictures. I am about 3 quarters advanced with 3D work with excellent scripting by OpAm to change driver(s) (if in tandem reversed), headlights, marker and ditch lights according to direction traveled etc. The scripting is already working very well.
The AN class will have 5 LODs and since this is my favorite, I will take extra care in detailing with her. At the moment she weights in at about 26 k polys and might blow out another 2-3 ks for the first LOD with the next LOD possibly halved.
BlueBirds, RedHens, the RedHen Jumbos (Adelaide ones and York Peninsular Railway, Walleroo ones contemplated) and 3000 Classes have been placed on the back burner for the time being with ALL the BlueBirds next in line for release in the very near future. Time is always in short supply for me but if my little lady is not getting too upset if I neglect her somewhat in the future, these might be rather sooner than later on the DLS.
One of these days I might sneak some pics of the new AN Class into here to show her off
.
FYI and cheers
VinnyBarb
I am redoing the AN Class diesels for TS09/TS10 at the moment, hence my hands are full with 3D work. The AN Class will be a very highly detailed diesel, after all I took well over 300 or more digital pictures of some of them (AN1 and AN3), have been 4 times on top of two of them (also AN3 + AN1) to take detailed digital pictures. I am about 3 quarters advanced with 3D work with excellent scripting by OpAm to change driver(s) (if in tandem reversed), headlights, marker and ditch lights according to direction traveled etc. The scripting is already working very well.
The AN class will have 5 LODs and since this is my favorite, I will take extra care in detailing with her. At the moment she weights in at about 26 k polys and might blow out another 2-3 ks for the first LOD with the next LOD possibly halved.
BlueBirds, RedHens, the RedHen Jumbos (Adelaide ones and York Peninsular Railway, Walleroo ones contemplated) and 3000 Classes have been placed on the back burner for the time being with ALL the BlueBirds next in line for release in the very near future. Time is always in short supply for me but if my little lady is not getting too upset if I neglect her somewhat in the future, these might be rather sooner than later on the DLS.
One of these days I might sneak some pics of the new AN Class into here to show her off
.FYI and cheers
VinnyBarb
SARRailways
Member
The other AN Class
Sweet Vinny. Are you planning on making the other diesels in the AN Class ?????
I am redoing the AN Class diesels for TS09/TS10 at the moment, hence my hands are full with 3D work. The AN Class will be a very highly detailed diesel, after all I took well over 300 or more digital pictures of some of them (AN1 and AN3), have been 4 times on top of two of them (also AN3 + AN1) to take detailed digital pictures. I am about 3 quarters advanced with 3D work with excellent scripting by OpAm to change driver(s) (if in tandem reversed), headlights, marker and ditch lights according to direction traveled etc. The scripting is already working very well.
The AN class will have 5 LODs and since this is my favorite, I will take extra care in detailing with her. At the moment she weights in at about 26 k polys and might blow out another 2-3 ks for the first LOD with the next LOD possibly halved.
BlueBirds, RedHens, the RedHen Jumbos (Adelaide ones and York Peninsular Railway, Walleroo ones contemplated) and 3000 Classes have been placed on the back burner for the time being with ALL the BlueBirds next in line for release in the very near future. Time is always in short supply for me but if my little lady is not getting too upset if I neglect her somewhat in the future, these might be rather sooner than later on the DLS.
One of these days I might sneak some pics of the new AN Class into here to show her off
FYI and cheers
VinnyBarb
Sweet Vinny. Are you planning on making the other diesels in the AN Class ?????
Which one do you mean? For TS09/10? They would be the same I did for TRS04 (AN1, 3, 10, 11) or do you mean any in between these numbers? There were only 11 of these ever made and I think AN8 had a smash and wiped itself out in an accident in WA some time ago.
Cheers
VinnyBarb
SARRailways
Member
Hey Vinny
I mean like AN 2 and the other members of the class????
If not, thats cool.
Thanks, SARRailways
They are easy to do as there are only 10 of them left and I am sure I can make more as I will do the AN Class in the Ghan, National Pacific, the old AN green and gold and possibly other colour scemes too. Suggestions please?
Cheers
VinnyBarb
Hi Vinny
Why not make a version of the 'generic' liveries (AN, NR, etc) with alpha numbers? This would then allow for those other locos, which would have a more generic mesh, rather than the 'specific' meshes used for the current versions (which are based on specific locos).
This would allow us to have multiple AN class locos running on the layout.
Zec
Why not make a version of the 'generic' liveries (AN, NR, etc) with alpha numbers? This would then allow for those other locos, which would have a more generic mesh, rather than the 'specific' meshes used for the current versions (which are based on specific locos).
This would allow us to have multiple AN class locos running on the layout.
Zec
SARRailways
Member
I agree
Hey Vinny
I got some images of a few, but I also agree with Electro and Zec. If you list is too big then put if off for a while. Anyway, here are the images
And....
If you cant do it then thats ok. And would I be able to reskin some of your AN Class to CFCLA EL Class ????
Thanks, SARRailways
Hi VinnyBarb
RE : the old AN green and gold and possibly other colour scemes too. Suggestions please?
How about the SAR colors Red and silver with the tiny blue pin stripe like the GM's
Just a thought
Hey Vinny
I got some images of a few, but I also agree with Electro and Zec. If you list is too big then put if off for a while. Anyway, here are the images
And....
If you cant do it then thats ok. And would I be able to reskin some of your AN Class to CFCLA EL Class ????
Thanks, SARRailways
The EL class is an entirely different diesel, just look at the fans on top, there are none. She has a huge inside fan, hence all these side vents/louvres walls on the sides, front and rear. Most handrails on the sides and rear plus the steps in the rear a la AN Class to climb on top are missing, no huge screwed on side panels on either side (2 per side), no infilled/bloked doors in the middle nor near its rear. On top of her, most items the AN Class has are not there. The back is completely flat (AN Class's back is somewhat rounded across and vertical too near its top) with most items there the AN Class has are missing, like the rear headlights, 2 top panels, distinctive marker light boxes/assemblies and a couple of oblong vents the AN Class has there. No round port windows on an EL Class either.
The couplers are different too, AN Class has wider vertical couplers, EL Class has normal ones. Body work underneath her is completely different. She has an extra skylight near the rear, no sand fillers in the middle of her sides. No crease/joints around the middle and top of the cab, where the whole window section (side and front) with the roof can be lifted off (my guess). Bogies are different too, as is the diesel tank plus there is no bumper in the rear like the AN Class has. The rear skirt at bottom is different as are the side panels on top rear, they are missing, there are no air filters on the slanted top sides nor the huge grill/air vent so distinctive on the AN Class there too is missing on either side. The rear bogey has no steps attached plus heaps of more differences.
Just to show some of the differences
. Just because the front observed from side on is somewhat similar, it does not make the EL Class the same. To me at least, because I know the differences between the two. As I modeled the sides of the AN Class as they are in reality, bolts/screws and all, a reskin to the EL Class can not be done as this would look like a AN Class with the EL Class differences just painted on/over the AN Class features (which the EL Class just does not have).Some of these locomotives did have a distinctive livery most of their lives, like the AN3, the Ghan one. She acquired this livery after getting taken over by National Rails and as far as I know, she still is painted that way although she was taken off the Ghan run 2 or so years ago to do some other work down south. Some of the other numbers did have different liveries at different times, starting off most likely with the green and gold AN colours. After National Rails got them, most of these became yellow/gold and grey. Later on some got the Patrick/Pacific National colours whereas some like the AN1 never got repainted after getting the yellow/gold and grey scheme and now look very rusty and shabby. I have not seen any other colour schemes of the AN Class, if any of you have, please let me know.
It would be relative easier for me to make these AN Class meshes in all different liveries as the different numbered AN Classes had in the past and as the present ones are finished. The only mesh differences between some of the different numbered AN Classes are, the AN2, AN5, AN8 and the AN11 have the front 2 cable connectors higher up nearer to the marker light assemblies than the rest of the AN Classes. The others have them lower towards the bottom crease where the vertical changes to the front slope.
Cheers
VinnyBarb
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