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Old October 2nd, 2007, 03:05 PM
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Default Timetable Challenge - the route and schedule

Hi all

Here is the schematic for the route of the challenge:

SOUTH-WEST.............................................. ........................................NORTH
TM--TM--TM--TM--TM--TM--TM-\
............................\
------Portal.Basic-----------\....................................../---TM--TM--TM--TM--TM--TM--TM---
..............................\.........../--Platform2--\........../
------Portal-------------------\---\-/---/---------------\......../-----Portal.Basic-----------------
....................................X............. .......\....../
------Portal-------------------/---/-\---\----Platform.1---\----/-------Portal-----------------------
............................../...........\
------Portal.Basic-----------/.............\-------------------\
............................/........... ...\-Multiple.Industry-\---
TM--TM--TM--TM--TM--TM--TM-/
SOUTH EAST

--TM--TR--TM--TR--TM--TR--------- Separate timing track ----TM--TR--TM--TR--TM--TR-------------

Please read . (periods) as spaces - the forum wont allow me to put in leading spaces

Here is the schedule:

Train1: From: south west, 8:01 arrive platform 1, 8:03 depart north
Train2: From north, 8:01 arrive platform 2, 8:02 depart south west
Train3: From south east, 8:01-8:02 through fast to north
Train4: From south east, 8:06 arrive platform2, 8:07 depart north
Train5: From south east, 8:08 arrive industry, load, run around train, wait until Train8 departed, depart south west
Train6: From south west, 8:09 arrive platform1, loco runs around train, depart to south west as soon as possible after 8:14 provided departure would not delay other train movements
Train7: Fast south east to north due through 8:11, may be up to 5 minutes late, top priority, no other train movements to impede progress
Train8: From north, 8:13 arrive platform 2 (may be up to 2 minutes late), Train7 must already have passed, wait for at least 2 minutes, depart to south west provided no other train movements are delayed
Train9: From north, 8:16 arrival platform 1 (switch to platform 2 if platform 1 not available). Arrival delayed until at least one platform is available. 8:18 depart south west

This schedule is quite complex to implement as there is contention for arrival and departure paths, paths through the diamond crossing and fast line, platforms and allotted time slots.

Major logic that needs to be timetabled includes:
  • Is there enough time before the express passes to run round the train?
  • Is there a platform free and if so which one?
  • Is the required path free yet with at least 2 minute separation?
  • Which train should depart first when there is contention for paths?
October 5, 17.00hrs - the route has been uploaded and is now available for downloading.

Segy

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Old October 2nd, 2007, 09:29 PM
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Segy, the diagram is a bit hard to understand & I'm not really following what you're trying to say. Any chance of uploading the diagram as a small picture instead? The diagram as it now doesn't actually show if it is single, or multiple track, or if the track forms sidings/passing loops.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 11:07 PM
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Hi Red

I agree. The finished route is almost ready for uploading however so would respectfully request waiting for that. If you copy the schematic of the route to Notepad and substitute space for the dots you get a better idea. The dashes are single tracks.

Thanks for your feedback and I hope you will have a go at the challenge.

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Old October 3rd, 2007, 04:32 PM
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Hi all

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Train6: From south west, 8:09 arrive platform1, loco runs around train, depart to south west as soon as possible after 8:14 provided no other train movements are delayed
Just to clarify, does this mean either
1) No previous train movements have been delayed
or
2) No following train movements will be delayed by this one

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Old October 3rd, 2007, 07:06 PM
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Hi Red

I agree. The finished route is almost ready for uploading however so would respectfully request waiting for that.
I should also make it a bit clearer, that I didn't mean posting a picture &/or diagram of the layout, just using straight lines representing what you trying to achieve.

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If you copy the schematic of the route to Notepad and substitute space for the dots you get a better idea.
Done that, still can't get work out the diagram.

Segy, here is a clickable picture of what I mean:

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Old October 3rd, 2007, 08:59 PM
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Just to clarify, does this mean either
1) No previous train movements have been delayed
or
2) No following train movements will be delayed by this one

Thanks
Hi David,

Now you mention it I can see this can be read in two different ways and I will amend the post - thanks.

the layout has been uploaded and is now available for downloading

Cheers
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Old October 5th, 2007, 10:53 AM
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Hi David,

Now you mention it I can see this can be read in two different ways and I will amend the post - thanks.

the layout has been uploaded and is now available for downloading

Cheers
Segy

I see from the DLS its states trs2006 with SP1
not every one has or can have this SP-1 so those people like me can not use this route as it will not show up ( NO MAP LOADED ) error

I will see if I can get it into TC then I can make it with 06 without the SP and e-mail it to anyone who has problems !!
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Old October 5th, 2007, 11:38 AM
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I have 06+sp1 but download is not possible
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Old October 5th, 2007, 01:39 PM
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I have 06+sp1 but download is not possible
Yes Ive tried it with 06 and TC
in cmp its not visible
in the DLS from this web site it showes up as the second item in Layouts
but will not DL ( unknown Location )

so we have to wait for next week until Auran can sort it out
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Old October 5th, 2007, 02:26 PM
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I've also got problems. I have TRS2006 with SP1 installed.
1) CMP does not find the route at all.
2) I find it OK from the DLS website, but when click on "Download with helper", CMP opens up with the name (sometimes) or the kuid number. It has a size shown, so CMP knows about it, but it has "Unknown location" - the big questionmark.
3) When I go through the "Add to Download Cart", it shows up there with message "Content is Invalid" - which explains why I can't download it.
But others can, as there were 11 previous downloads when I first tried, then 27 and now 35 others have downloaded it...

I know what I want to do, but can't make a start without the route to add a session to!!!
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Old October 5th, 2007, 08:29 PM
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Hi All

No idea what's causing this - for me ftp download fails with 'no such file or directory'

Try this:

Timetable Challenge.cmpa

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Old October 6th, 2007, 01:33 AM
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Thank's Segy for cmpa.

Why the platforms P1 and P2 aren't industry active stations.For me it will be more suitable.
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Old October 6th, 2007, 02:40 AM
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I'm sorry, once again.

For presentation it would be better to have much stations, two or three.

portalsN----station1(p1,P2)----station2(P1,P2)----station3(P1,P2)----portalsS
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Old October 6th, 2007, 11:03 AM
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So I got the route and it runs OK
so I can now make a copy for 2006 without the SP-1 for anyone who whants it

Problems at moment with TC copy
56 missing items
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Old October 6th, 2007, 03:43 PM
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So I got the route and it runs OK
so I can now make a copy for 2006 without the SP-1 for anyone who whants it

Problems at moment with TC copy
56 missing items
Thanks for doing this. The route is made entirely with built in items for TRS2006. Is it true then that so much TRS2006 built in content has not been carried forward into TC? Can it be transferred?

Furthermore are rules available in TC that might be usable in the challenge?

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