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bassist118

Suffering for his art.
While downloading some trainz content from a site (sorry but I can't remember which one) I got a message saying I had 41 infections on my PC and a pop up started downloading Antivirus 2009 onto my comp and there was no way to stop it. Windows defender gave a high malware warning about this program and it has proved nigh impossible to remove and it busy screwing my PC up. It seems the mafia are reamerging as online protection outfits sending the virus as a antivirus program then demanding you pay to register then sending you the antidote.

I've waisted valuable route building time trying to fix this problem, other trainzers please keep an eye out (this may have been around for a while but this is the first time I've came across it, so sorry if this is old news but prevention is better than a cure,)

Hope you don't have the same problems.

Andy ;)

Lerner trainzer
 
These exist all over the web as companies use them to try to make you purchase an antivirus product from them. If you cannot remove it from your computer using add/remove programs in the control panel, then have a hunt for it's folder in C:\Program files, delete it manually, and use a registry cleaner program to remove any traces of it.
 
sethmcs said:
Spybot is free and takes care of these nasties.:wave:
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Unfortunately, this may not work, as these are legitimate trials for legitimate programs. They are just foisted on you by unscrupulous companies that want to make a quick buck.

And here's the worst bit: this method of marketing must actually work, otherwise they wouldn't keep doing it. Now ain't that a daisy?
 
I had the same problem a few days ago. I got a pop up from "Internet Explorer" saying there was a vital anti-virus update that needed to be installed. I nearly did install it, but I noticed that the band that circled the "e" was different from the official one. I clicked the "x" button in the corner and I got the same message as you got. After countless attempts to stop it popping up I rebooted my system and ran a deep scan with "Norton 360". It reported that there had been 3 attempts at intrusion but not one virus was found. It may not be everybody's cup of tea but I trust "Norton" any day of the week.
 
bassist118 said:
While downloading some trainz content from a site (sorry but I can't remember which one) I got a message saying I had 41 infections on my PC and a pop up started downloading Antivirus 2009 onto my comp and there was no way to stop it. Windows defender gave a high malware warning about this program and it has proved nigh impossible to remove and it busy screwing my PC up. It seems the mafia are reamerging as online protection outfits sending the virus as a antivirus program then demanding you pay to register then sending you the antidote.

I've waisted valuable route building time trying to fix this problem, other trainzers please keep an eye out (this may have been around for a while but this is the first time I've came across it, so sorry if this is old news but prevention is better than a cure,)

Hope you don't have the same problems.

Andy ;)

Lerner trainzer
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Firefox version 3 with noscript add on is the best protection. For removing try the Microsoft malicious software removal tool.

Cheerio John
 
There's been a rash of these things going around lately. There are also disable the installed antivirus program if you let it get into your system. They sometimes prevent you from accessing the internet because they are holding your machine hostage until you purchase their software.

@Stationbeem, you were lucky. Norton usually lets these things in.


The only way to ger rid of thise is to format your hard drive and start again. I tried removing one of these things last week from a friends computer, and even though the A/V program saw it, and tried to remove it, it couldn't because it was locked in memory. It also used a hidden key in the registry to regenerate its DLL files if they were stopped with Task Manager.

Good luck, but plan on getting out the firehose to clean up. In away, this is where Vista is good. Vista will prevent things like this from installing because will bring up the warning about Administrator access requirements.

John
 
JCitron said:
@Stationbeem, you were lucky. Norton usually lets these things in.

John
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Norton have been a bit slap-dash in the past. At the moment though they seem to be getting their act together. I down-load up dates every day and they seem to be closing the back doors. The latest down load was for a Trojan virus which emulated Adobe Flash updates.
 
Good luck, but plan on getting out the firehose to clean up. In away, this is where Vista is good. Vista will prevent things like this from installing because will bring up the warning about Administrator access requirements.

I'm running vista but didn't get any administrator permission required box, they must have found a way around it.

I think I have removed it but could some stuff attached to the virus remain my PC still seems a lot slower than before.

Andy :)
 
I have had several of these nasty things,some would bring to a site to buy this software to get rid off all viruses on my computer! Or I would get 500 pop-ups saying your computer is infected with viruses! download this to save your computer! Although the ones I have gotten only infected Internet Explorer,I could use Mozilla Firefox and not get any of those pop ups,or just bring me to random sites to purchase this software to get rid of the viruses.
Then you got the ones that claim you have looked at adult sites and will try to get you to download a program tog et rid of all the traces etc.
Bottom line is don't click any of it. You click it,it will bring your computer to even worse trouble by either releaseing your computer from the grips of the virus by giving the people money,or it will just infect your computer with even more viruses.
 
bassist118 said:
I'm running vista but didn't get any administrator permission required box, they must have found a way around it.
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This is becuase you might of disabled UAC (User Account Control). This brings that Admin permission pop up that you see all the time. Its avalible through the control panel by search UAL in the search bar.

Cheers,
Adam
 
A/V-Spyware...

Around this neck of the woods most Tec's I know use either Eset NOD32 or Shield Deluxe 2008 on the home computers/networks.
While the free versions of AVG 8 and Avant are good, they are proned to give more false "positives" than most commercially available a/v software.
Nortons 360 (Ver 2) is a dramatic improvement over previous version of Nortons. In my opinion, a very good all-round suite that is far less resourse hungry than previous versions...
Spy Sweeper ($25 US) & PC Tools Spyware Doctor 6.0.0.362 ($30 US) are very good spyware & adware detectors/protectors/removers. (They also offers good protection against plishing websites).
There are several free spyware removal programs. Eg; AVG Anti-spyware 7.5, Spydoctor, Adaware, Microsoft Windows Defender, Spybot, etc..
On there own, at best they are OK. None of them will detect 100% of spyware/malware. That's why I would recommend you run aleast two of them.
Hey, you can never be to careful out there.... It's a jungle......
Cheers, Mac. :confused:
 
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jguffey: thats why I like it, But don't rely on it for life or death situations as the expencive ones normally find life or death stuff but not small stuff with big concequences unlike avast which is the other way round, Just a warning to you and everyone who's got it.
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Dirty_DreamX
 
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Stationbeem said:
Norton have been a bit slap-dash in the past. At the moment though they seem to be getting their act together. I down-load up dates every day and they seem to be closing the back doors. The latest down load was for a Trojan virus which emulated Adobe Flash updates.
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That's good to know about Norton. They were defintely on my bad list for almost a decade now due to their often poor performance and daft coverage.

Right now I'm running Vipre (www.sunbeltsoftware.com) which is a new product. It does a really nice job of finding things and it has kept my machine clean.

John
 
WARNING DON'T CLICK ON THIS LINK......

bassist118 said:
While downloading some trainz content from a site (sorry but I can't remember which one) I got a message saying I had 41 infections on my PC and a pop up started downloading Antivirus 2009 onto my comp and there was no way to stop it. Windows defender gave a high malware warning about this program and it has proved nigh impossible to remove and it busy screwing my PC up. It seems the mafia are reamerging as online protection outfits sending the virus as a antivirus program then demanding you pay to register then sending you the antidote.

I've waisted valuable route building time trying to fix this problem, other trainzers please keep an eye out (this may have been around for a while but this is the first time I've came across it, so sorry if this is old news but prevention is better than a cure,)

Hope you don't have the same problems.

Andy ;)

Lerner trainzer
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Gidday Andy,
I have found the site you are talking about...

DReinares said:
Where did you found the catenary ?;)
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http://www.fratrainz.com/

WARNING; Don't click on this link...
If you click on this link, it takes you to a French based Trainz web site. If you click on the 'English icon' you immediately start to download either spyware or a virus. (this is no joke).

http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=5515&page=4 (Eight posting down on this tread; DReinares)

There are two web addresses links that appear under "DReinares" image when he does a posting... I don't know if someone has hijacked his web site, or whether he has done this himself.... Hopefully it's not the latter....
Cheers, Mac... 30/07/2008

 
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