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NSWGR_46Class
Just call my Captain Rude
This is the 2004 version included in TANE (shown in TANE)
Here is the TS10/TS12 version (shown in TANE)
Has changeable numbers on loco and tender
Working marker lights - loco and tender
Has working selectedable nameboards for all the main NSWGR Express trainz
Has crew in the cab
Can load coal and water
Also note the color issue on the oldier tender in the back ground
Many other changes to long to list to make a better loco
Here is the TS10/TS12 version (shown in TANE)
Has changeable numbers on loco and tender
Working marker lights - loco and tender
Has working selectedable nameboards for all the main NSWGR Express trainz
Has crew in the cab
Can load coal and water
Also note the color issue on the oldier tender in the back ground
Many other changes to long to list to make a better loco
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You have found it... Excellent...
I am angered at the fact that N3V put in an old C36 class from 2004 into a revolutionary simulation game, that could have put billegulla's 3801. And wasn't that C46 taking off the DLS as it failed to keep up with current physics?
Cheers
I am angered at the fact that N3V put in an old C36 class from 2004 into a revolutionary simulation game, that could have put billegulla's 3801. And wasn't that C46 taking off the DLS as it failed to keep up with current physics?
Cheers
Hi NSWGR_46class
As they are released by a different user, under a different kuid number, they aren't updates. They might be 'upgraded' models, but they aren't updates, as they do not update the original assets. As such, if the session/route creator used the older version (the sessions may have been created before the new models were released), then this is what will be used. We have limited time in which to test, and fix, the sessions. So unless the content is non DLS and the creator didn't have permission to use it, we likely left it as-is, as we don't have the time to go searching for the possibility that a new asset is available under a completely different kuid/author-ID...
Regards
As they are released by a different user, under a different kuid number, they aren't updates. They might be 'upgraded' models, but they aren't updates, as they do not update the original assets. As such, if the session/route creator used the older version (the sessions may have been created before the new models were released), then this is what will be used. We have limited time in which to test, and fix, the sessions. So unless the content is non DLS and the creator didn't have permission to use it, we likely left it as-is, as we don't have the time to go searching for the possibility that a new asset is available under a completely different kuid/author-ID...
Regards
NSWGR_46Class
Just call my Captain Rude
Although very disappointing in this case its N3V lose.
You might want to check posting made on these forums and also emails sent to N3V at the time when it was pointed out that the C36 and other items had been changed from the original as part of the DLS clean. I can assure you that the 2004 C36 tender on the DLS never had TS12 SP1 in its name.
You might want to check posting made on these forums and also emails sent to N3V at the time when it was pointed out that the C36 and other items had been changed from the original as part of the DLS clean. I can assure you that the 2004 C36 tender on the DLS never had TS12 SP1 in its name.
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Hi NSWGR_46class
My apologies, I forgot a bit in my reply (been working on a very complex animation tonight, it's not been playing nice!).
If you'd like to see/offer an alternate/improved/replacement asset used, please send an email to trainzdev@auran.com
I can't promise it'll happen, especially this close to release, but it's still possible that our team may be able to do so.
Regards
Zec
My apologies, I forgot a bit in my reply (been working on a very complex animation tonight, it's not been playing nice!).
If you'd like to see/offer an alternate/improved/replacement asset used, please send an email to trainzdev@auran.com
I can't promise it'll happen, especially this close to release, but it's still possible that our team may be able to do so.
Regards
Zec
NSWGR_46Class
Just call my Captain Rude
OK I did miss the old days when we used to point out an issue with stuff and a company representative would pop in and say well that is a bit of a stuff we did there we will try and fix that one when we can.
Bill made a 38?? And uh.. A C36 is different to a 38...
I'd like to point out something. Aidyn you said
I'd like to point out, and I want everyone to read and understand this, and no, I'm not an N3V employee, that this being included in the route and session, as Aaron pointed out, has nothing to do with N3V but the route/session creator. It is likely they did not know new and better ones existed. That IS NOT N3V's fault! That the developers and game creators are at fault is utter nonsense. If there is one available someone should alert them so, as has now been done, and that should be the end of it.
My point is that many people have a go at the developers for rubbish like this that is not their first responsibility. When they ask for content to be put into a new game should those submitting their's not make sure they have done the best they can? Based on other such arguments any changes the developers made could be met as an insult to the creator, and so they are tested for function. I recommend that should someone have an issue like this that they should think how these work and perhaps inquire before laying blame on N3V.
Basically, I've seen many issues people have on this forum, most of which are met with "what the hell, N3V!?" for no good reason! It's not their fault and if you have a problem screaming and arguing is not the way to do it. Step at a time, hold your tongue, keep your patience.
This is not to anyone in particular, because I've seen it so many times, but I hope someone reads, understands and follows this idealism and maybe we can learn from THEIR result.
...An obviously annoyed
Stevo
I'd like to point out, and I want everyone to read and understand this, and no, I'm not an N3V employee, that this being included in the route and session, as Aaron pointed out, has nothing to do with N3V but the route/session creator. It is likely they did not know new and better ones existed. That IS NOT N3V's fault! That the developers and game creators are at fault is utter nonsense. If there is one available someone should alert them so, as has now been done, and that should be the end of it.
My point is that many people have a go at the developers for rubbish like this that is not their first responsibility. When they ask for content to be put into a new game should those submitting their's not make sure they have done the best they can? Based on other such arguments any changes the developers made could be met as an insult to the creator, and so they are tested for function. I recommend that should someone have an issue like this that they should think how these work and perhaps inquire before laying blame on N3V.
Basically, I've seen many issues people have on this forum, most of which are met with "what the hell, N3V!?" for no good reason! It's not their fault and if you have a problem screaming and arguing is not the way to do it. Step at a time, hold your tongue, keep your patience.
This is not to anyone in particular, because I've seen it so many times, but I hope someone reads, understands and follows this idealism and maybe we can learn from THEIR result.
...An obviously annoyed
Stevo
I'm not sure what else you were expecting. Is Zec not a representative for N3V? Did he not say that even with T:ANE close to release it would still be possible to swap content?
NSWGR_46Class
Just call my Captain Rude
Something form N3V to say OK we stuffed up that one -=- we are sorry -=- we will fix what we can when we can.
I am an investor in this project - I want the best for it - If this fails N3V fails and no more trainz releases.
I want TANE to be the best it can - The TANE we were promised - The TANE I believed in.
I wan(t) TANE to Loo(k) and be the best it can -- this is the community release we as a community own it !!!!
I am an investor in this project - I want the best for it - If this fails N3V fails and no more trainz releases.
I want TANE to be the best it can - The TANE we were promised - The TANE I believed in.
I wan(t) TANE to Loo(k) and be the best it can -- this is the community release we as a community own it !!!!
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NSWGR_46Class
Just call my Captain Rude
Almost had to read it with a Scottish accent
Technically there was nothing broken?? The creator of the route (NOT N3V) used the original assets. They didn't stuff up anything....
NSWGR_46Class
Just call my Captain Rude
Sorry may I ask do you think that N3V taking no action when it was pointed out to them that the items had been changed as part of a the DLS clean up where the reference to the newer versions and the licensing conditions for them removed a stuff up ?
NSWGR_46Class
Just call my Captain Rude
And also the dude who changed the 36 and other items as part of the clean up but have a gut feeling they are one and the same.
To me the stuff up was N3V not taking action when it was pointed out to them that the items had been changed as part of the clean up outside of the boundaries allowed under the clam up in the first place.
To me the stuff up was N3V not taking action when it was pointed out to them that the items had been changed as part of the clean up outside of the boundaries allowed under the clam up in the first place.
If it was outside the boundaries of the clean up you can hardly blame them for missing it.
Out of interest, did you create the original older 36 in question? If not then it isn't really an update to the original, yours is a NEW assets of its own, hence the entirely different kuid, being the reason its not considered as an updated version. Again, its the route/session creator that decided to use this one and its up to them if they want to use it or your newer one.
Out of interest, did you create the original older 36 in question? If not then it isn't really an update to the original, yours is a NEW assets of its own, hence the entirely different kuid, being the reason its not considered as an updated version. Again, its the route/session creator that decided to use this one and its up to them if they want to use it or your newer one.