Tiny Trainz

I can't see much use for this "Tiny Trainz", I mean of course they called it Tiny Trainz...tiny value.

Let us see some real action here, more built in content that Auran actually made, instead of using third party stuff at every corner.
How about some updates to the DLS, like changing the Trainz 2004 theme to 2010?



Cheers,
Woody
 
I do think this is a waste of time and money. But who knows, maybe they have good reasons for doing this. Won't know till it's released.

Matt
 
Come on guys its a kids program and probably took all of five minutes to code, maybe the trainees project. :hehe:
If it was taking time away from Trainz we wouldn't have 2010 for a start. At least its train related, can't imagine what the reaction would be like if it was an FPS or something. :eek:

Incidentally the DLS probably isn't maintained by programmers but network or maybe notwork? engineers who are not likely to be coding games............ or maybe they are? :hehe::hehe:
 
Not to insult any of you, but I feel you all are looking at this the wrong way. Auran's first big game created was Dark Region which gave the company the boost they needed. Greg Lane, CEO of Auran Pty at this time, made Auran fail proof by splitting the company into 3 main parts. Auran Games- Doing marketing, publicity, and publishing games as well as updating websites, helpdesk, and webstore. Auran Developments- Developing games, as well as the websites, and ideas for games. Then the umbrella (administrative) company which did budgets and copyright legal items. After Dark Region, Auran did not know where to go, Greg Lane felt because of this that in case Auran created a game that became a flop that they would need to create a back-up game. A game that would always be there to give income to the company for other more inportant projects, so Trainz was born. After Greg Lane was gone, Auran felt that there was a growing market for multiplayer games which was Fury. Fury would have worked if they had not released it too soon, and marketed it right. Greg Lane's plan worked, after Auran came back from voluntary submission (Chaper 11 bankruptcy) the two other companys were still intact so was the game that they had incase something like that happend, Trainz. At this point Auran, would wait a few years for a new version of Trainz to be created which was good it allowed us to catch-up and create content routes for that version than when the new one came out. We all started working on that one. Now Auran is pumping out Trainz version after version. At the moment, this is the only franchise Auran has. You all saw what happened when Auran put all of there resources in one game (Fury) and just like Fury Auran released TS2009WBE too soon with too many bugs. But they needed the money so they released it. For one time I think Auran is taking a good step here. Tiny Trainz, has two advantages at the moment for Auran. First, it is giving Auran time to repair TS2009 and update the DLS including other Auran websites, as well as giving us time to get used to the new versions of Trainz and giving them time to work on Trainz Simulator X and Turbo Trainz. Tiny Trainz will not only buy Auran time, but more customers. Look at the thread about why young people don't like railroads. Well Auran with this version of Trainz will maybe allow kids to get an interest in trains. And guess what, if Auran can get more people interested in creating and driving trains on a computer think about when these kids turn 10, 15, and 20. They will be playing Trainz Simulator the versions we play now. So Auran by creating this game, is creating furture Trainz customers.

My two Cents,
JRT
 
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This is outrageous. Kids don't need a miniature version of Trainz! I was 10 when I bought TRS2006 and figured it all out on my own.


And I don't give a damn that it's "kid friendly" and blah blah blah. This is a huge waste. Auran should be concentrating their efforts on fixing bugs, including those in TRS2010 and 09, and the DLS. Now they will release YET ANOTHER version of Trainz. They are biting off way more than they can chew.

Auran should take some inspiration from Microsoft's ACEs team. They took alot of time to make the Flight Simulator series, and as a result released an incredible product. The game is incredible without any addons, and that's what Trainz is not. Microsoft hasn't spat out game after game and has taken much time to make sure they product is top notch. Auran, however, just creates a game and charges you money for it, and it seems like they barely took their time with it. I really think that, if Trainz 09 had been created over time by very skilled programmers, and if it relied more heavily on it's user's suggestions, we would have a product akin to FSX in it's own respect. Instead we have 2010, and unfortunately, Trainz Tiny. Stop focusing on the kids and look to the people who have Trainz as a serious hobby. The kids can go play Thomas the Train, and the people who take it seriously can have Trainz. We need a REAL good game, with lots of high quality content from Auran.
 
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Its called expanding and this product looks more for 4 and 5 year olds. This is why the Train Hobble as a whole is dieing because some of you care about the younger generation who are the future of sales for Auran or model railroad makers. If we get people interested in trains early on than there might be a chance that more people will like trains than ever.

JRT
 
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JRT said:
Its called expanding and this product looks more for 4 and 5 year olds. This is why the Train Hobble as a whole is dieing because some of you care about the younger generation who are the future of sales for Auran or model railroad makers. If we get people interested in trains early on than there might be a chance that more people will like trains than ever.

JRT
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I know what it's called.

4 and 5 year olds should be learning about the world, and learning to speak and poop and clean themselves after pooping, not playing a train simulator. That is way too young to be playing a train simulator.

Trainz Tiny should not be a project on Auran's hands. Focus on all the problems we have with their stuff now instead of trying to sell stuff to kids.

I got my interest in trains from the REAL thing, not playing some game. If we want kids interested in trains, lets promote parents taking their kid to the tracks and watch some trains. I was 2 when my dad took me to the rail yard, now I'm 13 and still into it.
 
:D Auran is a Business so by makeing game's as well as selling more game's make them money,
Thats what they do, weather you you like the game's or not,
Sooner or later a game will be released that not many will like,
If Auran can can make money off them well good on them it helps them pay thier bill's just like selling Trainz help's pay the bill's.

Yes i would like to see the DLS fixed to upload content,
Down loading content from the DLS works for me but some items don't
but nothing is 100%.
I all so would like some of the bug's in 2010 fixed as much as the rest of the Community,
but it's up to Auran to do so when they are ready ( mabye ).

My 5c worth

Poul

( starting a flame session will not help any one )
 
Here is my take on this:

I think Auran has brought forward a subject that I have long been wanting to deal with in trainz, That is Model Railroading. One of my major concepts that I have been working on is creating rooms for the game, so in this way we may create layoutes that look like they really exsist, and are not just sitting on a platform in the middle of nowhere.

Second: we have to remember , this is a fully operating company. Their job is not to give into demands of their costomers that serve ne better purpose thatn "makeing us happy"..... Heck, I surprised they have put up with the volume of whining and complaints that have thus far flooded the atmosphere of this forum. They are simply looking to the future of the company, instead of the community's demands, and I think we need to recognize and respect that.

cheers,
 
Well NIARTcar I respect your opinion, but I think that they have developed such a large community with Trainz, and seeing as they are not a huge game company such as EA Games, and since Trainz is their only source of income, I think they need to base what they implement into their games more upon what the community wants. They need to realize quality > quantity, and rolling out all these games is just not working.


And Trainz fans will spread the word about Trainz if they find it is a great product, and so having a great product comes from listening to people.
 
true, but you also must remember that the company itself has no obligation to this community. This "service" that they are providing us is perk, and is in no way guarenteed to us. I feel we need to recognize that for as much as we need them for technical support, they need us for economical support. My point being , we need to be more sensitive to the workings of a company... thus "requesting and suggesting, rather than demanding and insulting". I for one am very happy with where auran has taken this series, one must recall the humble beginnings of this simulator, and realize that we have had quite a bit accomplished. thus far, I would have to assert that Auran has cornered the market on Train simulators, and set a new standard to which others try to aspire. So be happy with this, I look forward to seeing how this turns out.

cheers,
 
Some of you seem to be laying on the floor and throwing a tantrum. Who's the 4 year olds here? Auran is a business and it looks to me that they're just trying to diversify a little while at the same time build a future Trainz fan base. I see nothing wrong with this approach.

What's the big deal? Life is too short to get so upset over a game.

Mike
 
leeferr said:
Some of you seem to be laying on the floor and throwing a tantrum. Who's the 4 year olds here? Auran is a business and it looks to me that they're just trying to diversify a little while at the same time build a future Trainz fan base. I see nothing wrong with this approach.

What's the big deal? Life is too short to get so upset over a game.

Mike
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You have to consider the age/maturity level of some of these posters.....you've got juveniles who actually think they know what's best for 4 year olds to be learning or not learning.....teens tend to get overly dramatic about things....I know mine does...:cool:
 
Sourdough said:
You have to consider the age/maturity level of some of these posters.....you've got juveniles who actually think they know what's best for 4 year olds to be learning or not learning.....teens tend to get overly dramatic about things....I know mine does...:cool:
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I'd have to agree with you on that. Our youngest daughter is 29 and everyday is still a drama with her.

Mike
 
Never be too proud to question your own opinions!!!

Smileyman said:
Most companies try to diversify to create new revenue streams.

Unfortunately, even with it's track record, Auran doesn't realise that it's not always a good idea to go down this road if it means neglecting your "backbone" product.

Remember how Trainz built Auran up to a large company, and then had to play second fiddle to FURY because it was no longer important enough?

Remember how Trainz was the only part of Auran worth saving after FURY had sucked the life out of them.

Remember when we had an actual Train enthusiast at the helm of Auran, and the product was given the resources and respect it deserved?

If they want new revenue streams, why don't they create some addon packages that AREN'T created by the community, and sell them to the regions.
UK pack with several UK locos, several UK carriages and wagons, all interactive and using the latest features of TS2009/TS2010, and charge £20 for it.
Do the same for US and Australia regions, and if popular, maybe other regions.

I wouldn't mind giving my money to Auran to support them for products like that, but Tiny Trainz?
I don't think so.

Smiley.
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When I took a long break from Trainz, I killed off any subscriptions to threads, as well as the newsletter subscription.
Therefore, I didn't have the full info on this product.

Although I stand by my quoted post above (I wish they would release non-community created, professional loco and wagon packs), having scraped together more information on this product, I'm sitting on the fence a little (not something I'm used to doing :) )

Apparently, Tiny Trainz will allow you to choose from 4 areas of the house to build your train set (kitchen, bedroom, etc) and then rearrange the room before deciding where to build the layout (on the table, under the table, behind the sofa).

It will all depend on the pricing on the game (I don't think it warrants full-price for what it is IMO), but if they get it right then never mind the kids, I wanna go!!! lol.

Seriously though, for half the price of Trainz, this could be a nice little addition to the Trainz family.
Of course, if it proves more popular than Trainz, priority will shift at Auran once again, and Daddy Trainz will be once again stood in the shadow of lesser software.

Let's wait and see the price point and the content included (and how sandbox it is).

Smiley.
 
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