Bridgehampton Metro - UK Light Rail / Modern Tramway in Progress

[paulzmay]

Just re-establishing this thread in the new forum. I'll start with a re-cap in thumbnails...

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More in a moment...

Paul

[paulzmay]

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And more...

[paulzmay]

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And more...

[paulzmay]

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And so on...

[Capt_Scarlet]

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Sorry, didn't realise there was this many...

[paulzmay]

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And one more for now...

[paulzmay]

Last ones for now...

Videos:
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Thumbs:
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And one new one...

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Paul

[paulzmay]

Thanks for the kind comments rjhowie - I'm starting to know how you must feel. Did you ever wonder if you'd bitten off more than you could chew? Never mind, I'll finish at least a useable section...

Anyway, just one more pic for now...

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Paul

[paulzmay]

It is just me in here isn't it? :cool:

Ah well, I can see some people are having a look, so I'll keep posting...

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Looking towards Northgate.
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Northgate stop.
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In the old town approaching the Cathedral.

Paul

[paulzmay]

A few more pics from the route...

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The view from the Cathedral

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Backstreets of the Old Town

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More from the Old Town

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Looking towards the Cathedral

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The terraces of Coromandel Heath

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Industrial area and bridge over the outer ring road near Hallworth.

That's all for now...

Paul

[paulzmay]

OK - time for some more pictures. I've been adding scenery to one of the areas of the route I hadn't touched much before, so I've now almost got the main route from the edge into the centre complete...

These pictures represent a circular journey into the inner suburbs and back by another route:

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Starting out at Flinders Square in the heart of Bridgehampton.

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The grand approach to the main line station (much still to be done in this area).

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Shakespeare Street stop in the inner suburbs. The tramway shares it's alignment here with a heavy rail branchline that has been singled to accomodate it (note to self - more foliage required).

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Terrace backs (nice one Chris7464) line the route...

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Coromandel Heath main line station. The tramway low level station is hidden behind the flyovers. Three tram routes and the branchline serve this cosmopolitain inner suburb.

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A view from the other side of the station. The other route into town passes the station's front door.

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Stone terraces line St James' Road back down the hill into town.

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Further down the road...

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St. James' Road stop for the Hospital.

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Back in the Old Town at Cathedral stop.

Still lots to do - I've had to be pretty selective about where I take my shots, but I'm progressing quite well...

Paul

[paulzmay]

Thanks guys! I appreciate the encouragement...

Klinger - Yes I remember when the only trams I could find for Trainz were the MBTA trolleys. Now that's still about all there is for the USA, and there's loads from mainland Europe, plus antique trams from the UK and Australia...

And here's one shot I had left over...

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Sturt Street Stop from the bridge over the river.

Paul

[paulzmay]

I usually try to make my shots look as complete as possible (no grey squares, mysterious spaces, missing overhead etc), so it probably makes my routes look almost finished when actually it's all very selective photography...

Anyway, in a break from my usual practice, here are some of the bits I have yet to finish before I release the first section...

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Elevated section heading from the Old Town towards the docks.

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Northbound across the other river, and up the hill (and then underground).

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View back towards the town.

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The bridge next to Sturt Street Stop (looking the other way to all of the previous pictures - now you know why...)

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Main line station and approach. The tunnel leads to the low-level station.

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Southern station approaches and carriage sheds.

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Northern Station approaches (still don't know quite what I'm doing here)

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Industrial area to the west of the main line station.

So, as you can see, there's still a lot to be done...

Paul

[Capt_Scarlet]

Paul, This keeps getting better and better all the time. I think you are making a very interesting route that just makes me want it when its finished even more. You definitely have some talent for route building thats for sure. :)

John

[tramways]

I was just wondering what overhead poles you are using, are they available for download or did you design them for this layout.

Thanks

[puziparrot]

:eek: WOW :eek:
Amazing stuff Paul. How about you join the Heavily Used Branchline to the mainline or is that already happening?

[Klinger]

this looks asome man

like 15 trillion times better then my phalanx layout, which i need to update badly....

[Callum027]

WHERE can I get those trams? Very nice!

[paulzmay]

Thanks for all your kind words! I really appreciate your comments! :D

@Tramways - the poles with the arched arms (single and double) are by michael-h and are (I think) called oberleitungsmast. The crosswires with plain poles attached are by Andi06, and the single wire spline I have used is called "line only" and is part of a russian catenary set. All are on the DLS.

@Puziparrot - Yes the heavy rail branch joins the main line at Bridgehampton station. It's the left hand brown ballasted track in the sixth pic in my previous post - it does continue, I've just got my draw distance set way down...

@Klinger - Don't put Phlanx down - it was part off the inspiration for building this route. I'd be interested to see what you do to it...

@Callum027 - Now there's a question without a short answer... Search the DLS for Denis_Fr and Cosey for starters. The boxy orange and cream tram (GT6) is from Modula City (payware), but is built into TRS06. Many of the others are from http://www.barowa.tubaza.net/PTram/index.php
I think that covers most of them, but if there is one in particular you like the look of, I can give more specific directions...

I'll post some more WIP shots later, but now I'm off to work...

Paul

[tdstead]

@Paul - Keep up the great woirk, spent yesterday only getting updates and a couple new repaintd of the German Trams Mostly, the Historic cars (Tw / BW), T57 / T4, MGT6D, KT4D, GT6 / GT8, 2 new 105NM's and a new combino, gett its getting hard to keep up.

@Callum027 - Also try the linsk from his page you find even more trams, Also keep a eye on his page as His trams get updated and added to quite regular.

Ptram link : http://www.barowa.tubaza.net/PTram/index.php
Also Try
http://www.trsbingen.de/php/news.php
http://www.trainzmotion.cz/
http://www.tramtrainz.net/
http://www.tramsim.com.ua (http://www.tramsim.com.ua/)(In Russian : 3rd link down Ie: Ist indented is tram downloads)

As paul has mentioned before alot of the trams are single sided for right hand running.

[paulzmay]

Tom - thanks for the extra links - I'll have to try that Russian site (it doesn't look too hard to navigate).

Anyway, here are a few more pics of unfinished bits...

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The industrial area looking towards the depot.

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Looking across the river towards the centre...

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The view from the hospital.

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The other side of Coromandel Heath.

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The other half of Athol Park.

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York Road stop. The traffic should wait behind stopped trams...

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Athol Park Station stop, with Athol Park National Rail station in the background.

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Last bit before the portals at Blackstone. I've done a bit to this since, including a traffic light controlled roundabout - I've just got to get the trams to interface with it now...

That's all for now..

Paul

[Tom_Associated]

Wow! that is the only word i can think of to describe this route, keep up the excellent work, would love to download when this is completed!

[tdstead]

Yes the Russian site might be easy to get them, but just wait till you see the config menu for the cars, I just clicked on each one at a time to have a look at all the options, Route number and run number change various lighting option, headlight, Marker and cab passenger area, and may others, the menu is quite long and fun to play with.

Well is that not why we are here to help each other .....

Tom

[paulzmay]

And some more...

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Approaching Blackstone

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At Blackstone Stop (cutomised with Metro Logo).

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Some shots of the bridge over the traffic light controlled roundabout (working) at the other end of the main street. I failed to get the cars to stop for the trams this time, so I decided a bridge was the best bet...

That's all for now!

Happy Australia Day to all the Aussies out there! I'm off down the beach for a barbie!

Paul

[tyard]

I love Light Rail!! This route, i can tell, will turn out great, and is coming along well! Keep it up, and tell us when its released!:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[ish6]

incredible .... now I know why I like to create items ... so peeps like you can make superb-looking routes ...

Can't wait to run it!!:)

Ish

[paulzmay]

Thanks for your kind comments - I'll certainly announce it's release - I wouldn't keep quiet after so much time and effort! And Ish - one or two of your buildings will certainly feature...

I notice that quite a few of the earlier posts in this thread (anything without pictures) have disappeared. Anyone any idea? And one of my posts now has someone else's name on it... This is a bit of a pain, as I've been asked a few questions about the development of the route, and the answers are still pertinent. So can anyone suggest a reason for what has happened?

Paul

[Paul_Bert]

@Callum027 - Now there's a question without a short answer... Search the DLS for Denis_Fr and Cosey for starters. The boxy orange and cream tram (GT6) is from Modula City (payware), but is built into TRS06. Many of the others are from http://www.barowa.tubaza.net/PTram/index.php
I think that covers most of them, but if there is one in particular you like the look of, I can give more specific directions...

Paul

Some very nice trams on this website. Are they compatible with Trainz 2004 or are they just for 2006?

Thanks for this link.

Pab

[Klinger]

@Klinger - Don't put Phlanx down - it was part off the inspiration for building this route. I'd be interested to see what you do to it...



im glad it was good for somthing :D

im mostly working on fixing the paper thin cantanery supports, i didnt use the building version, i only used splines, im working on a railroad museum with overhead lines to get some practice with high detail overhead.

the good thing is ill have alot less work to do then building the whole layout from scratch :D

i also may add a new line, just to kinda show progress for a growing city, and ill be deleting some buildings, in hopes of getting better FPS

now if some one can build some modern american LRVs ill be set!!

[tdstead]

If you look at the pics on ptrams site the later ones are marked 2006 but still run in 2004 ok, i think it just means they have been tested in 2006 and work ok but are marked in the config as version 2.4 not 2.5.

Tom

[buddhaben]

A few more pics from the route...


http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_160.jpg
More from the Old Town


http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_156.jpg
Industrial area and bridge over the outer ring road near Hallworth.

That's all for now...

Paul

Are those LRV's on the DLS?

[Paul_Bert]

If you look at the pics on ptrams site the later ones are marked 2006 but still run in 2004 ok, i think it just means they have been tested in 2006 and work ok but are marked in the config as version 2.4 not 2.5.

Tom

Thanks, I will try them out. I have 2006 but much prefer 2004 because of the sound issues I have with 2006.

Pab

[JCitron]

Paul,

You've done an amazing job with this route. I can almost hear the wheels squealing around the corners. :)

I look forward to driving it someday.

John

[3830]

With your roads, how are you making them. Its a really intersting way of doing it. your route looks great:D

cheers, Daniel

[paulzmay]

Wow! Every time I look in there are more posts! I thought modern tramways were a bit of a minority interest, at least in the English speaking world...

@Klinger - I'm glad to have inspired you to carry on building. Tram catenary can be a bit of a challenge, but it's well worth the effort to get right. I did once answer a post on this thread asking where I got the stuff I use, but I think it's been "tidied up"...

@Buddhaben - Yes, they are both on the DLS. The first is by Cosey - there are lots of variants, some single ended, some double ended. The second is the Dublin LUAS livery Citadis tram by Denis_fr. I've increased the mass of the Citadis to improve it's AI acceleration.

@3830 - The roads are mostly Andi06's street kit and tram kit, with extra details by Engfer, and some items from mgreen48, and a variety of other pavements (sidewalks). I've spent a lot of time developing a method for triggering the traffic lights in Andi's kit (which are basically level crossings) when the rails do not actually link to them. This gives a massive amount of flexibility in designing junction layouts - almost every road junction you see in these shots has control of all conflicting tram and car movements, and includes such things as T-junction traffic lights, right turn lanes controlled separately, traffic light controlled roundabouts, motorway junctions with traffic lights controling access to the slip roads, one lane of traffic appearing to split into two, with some traffic going each way and so on. This picture gives a bit of an idea of what's involved...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_123.jpg

I'll post some more pics fairly soon...

Paul

[Busy_Driver]

Outstanding Layout Paul, many thanks for sharing it. Eagerly awaiting more screenies

[paulzmay]

A couple more...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_201.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_202.jpg

Paul

[Sleaze]

This layout is simply amazing. It makes me feel a little ashamed of my efforts to make an English based tram layout now. I look at your junctions (especially the cross section style picture) and I am bewildered. I have not got a clue when it comes to programming traffic or traffic lights. I can just about make a tram go in the opposite direction on my light rail system, but this is amazing.

I will post some pics tomorrow on another thread.

Where did you get the Alstom Tram?

[paulzmay]

Sleaze,

Glad you like the route. Don't worry about being bewildered, as far as I know I'm the only one building junctions like this - it's a bit beyond what Andi06 had in mind when he created the street kit! The tutorial on his website is a good place to start, then just play with the bits and see what you can acheive...

I look forward to seeing your pictures when you post them.

The tram is by Denis_fr, and is on the DLS - search for Citadis in the name field.

Paul

[boat]

Paul,

Absolutely superb route. Very much looking forward to seeing it on the DLS.... Can't wait to see how you've done those junctions!

Makes me think it might work with scenario code too!

Itching to try! ;)

Boat

[paulzmay]

@Boat - thanks for the kind words. The junctions are a bit of a challenge, but they all seem to work OK - it doesn't look like there is much you can't do (except split traffic in two directions) if you apply a bit of lateral thinking...
I don't know about scenario code - I suspect it has no effect on traffic, and so wouldn't help much. Most of the clever stuff in this in Andi06's street kit, abused to its limits, and a large number of triggers and rules.

Anyway, I'm sure I posted some pictures this morning, which have since disappeared... so either this forum is playing up, or I dreamed it (rolleyes removed due to too many pics)

These are all taken in the area between the main line station and the river...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_216.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_215.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_211.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_210.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_209.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_208.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_207.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_206.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_205.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_204.jpg

Paul

[3830]

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_215.jpg
Paul

See the signal in the corner? What is the kuid and where can i find more of them? Looks great.

cheers, Daniel:)

[boat]

@Boat - thanks for the kind words. The junctions are a bit of a challenge, but they all seem to work OK - it doesn't look like there is much you can't do (except split traffic in two directions) if you apply a bit of lateral thinking...
I don't know about scenario code - I suspect it has no effect on traffic, and so wouldn't help much. Most of the clever stuff in this in Andi06's street kit, abused to its limits, and a large number of triggers and rules.

Paul

Hi Paul,

Yes, I take your point about Andi06's crossings. I only really paid them any attention recently, even though I noticed them some time ago. They are phenomenal, as is the rest of the street kit.
My only comment about using the crossings in a scenario, (rather than a session) would be that the scenario could control the switching junctions directly rather than the AJS Traffic control. No, it won’t make any difference to the traffic but it may give more direct control to what is being switched, specific to the layout. I would have said that should mean more flexibility in what can be done….. except you seem to have done it anyway!!!!! HOW?

Andio6’s idea to use level crossings in this way really was a spark of genius which you have built on in a fantastic way.

Keep it up,

Now if only we could split traffic in 2 directions. :confused: Can you?

Boat

[paulzmay]

@3830 - That looks like one of Bloodnoks new UK signals on the DLS. They are part of a kit that allows for automatic generation of signal feathers...

@Boat - I suspect that using scenario control might be more complex than using the AJS controllers, but I don't really know.
As far as how it's done, there are a variety of techniques I've used to acheive a variety of situations, it would take a while to describe all of them, so you may have to be more specific...
As for traffic split in 2 directions, I can only make it look like it ;) No-one can do it for real, unless you can animate attachment points...

Paul

[Asser]

@3830 - ...
As for traffic split in 2 directions, I can only make it look like it ;) No-one can do it for real, unless you can animate attachment points...

Paul

We have a divider now, please chreck the following thread: http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=5247
(it's in german, but it will be sone available, have also a look at other threads from user chereck, he has also some universal crossings)
There are some pictures in the thread or ask for a translation in english... i hope this is what you are looking for

The german name for this divider is "Fahrspurteiler"

Best Regards
Asser

[paulzmay]

We have a divider now, please chreck the following thread: http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=5247
(it's in german, but it will be sone available, have also a look at other threads from user chereck, he has also some universal crossings)
There are some pictures in the thread or ask for a translation in english... i hope this is what you are looking for

The german name for this divider is "Fahrspurteiler"

Best Regards
Asser

If I read the thread correctly, this simply forces traffic to turn right instead of left where splines diverge (very useful if you drive on the right). However (unless you know different) it doesn't split traffic flow into more than one direction.

Paul

[ish6]

Superb shotz!!!!!!

How's the frame rate?

Ish:D

[paulzmay]

How's the frame rate?



I was hoping no-one would ask... :rolleyes:

Quite good on some parts of the route, but very low in the town centre. My computer is barely mid range though - Athlon XP2000 (1.6GHz), 1.5Gb RAM and an ATI card I bough second hand at least 2 years ago, and wasn't top of the range then...

Anyway - more shots...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_214.jpg
The approach to Coromandel Heath frm the East.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_213.jpg
The northern industrial part of Coromandel Heath.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_212.jpg
Aerial view of Coromandel Heath Station.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_203.jpg
Flinders Square.

That's all folks!

Paul

[oldie]

Hello Paul, screenshots are spellbinding,... question I hope you are not fed up of answering,.. your screenshots taken between the mainline stn. and the river, show, a two lane road on either side of your tram tracks.. is it possible to have the traffic on the two lane road travel in the same direction,.. if so could you explain how to me,...kindest regards

[paulzmay]

I think Andi06's website tutorial explains it best here... http://www.ajsmith.nildram.co.uk/trs/

If you get stuck, post again, or PM (or e-mail) me.

Paul

[oldie]

Hello Paul, many thanks for your quick response,...regards

[boat]

Hi Paul,

Where did you get the 'painted on' direction arrow road markings? Are they just part of Andi06's street kit that I've missed or did you find them elsewhere?

boat

[chris_rose_1]

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_169.jpg


Where Did You Get Them Bridges

[paulzmay]

@Boat - the direction arrows, and some of the other markings are by engfer, and are on the DLS.

@chris - the bridge is by Jaleel, and is on the DLS. I think the supports are a spline by Vulcan from years ago, also on the DLS.

@ Everyone else - I haven't stopped, just slowed down a bit...

Paul

[boat]

Thanks Paul.

I searched for every key word I could think of. Arrow, Road Mark, Paint etc.... but not in German!

Boat

[paulzmay]

About time I showed a few more in here...

I've done loads more to the route, but until today very little was looking complete. Of course, when I do have a run TRS crashes, so I've only got a couple of shots for now, but I expect I'll take quite a few more soon...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_241.jpg
Students waiting at Eastgate Stop.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_244.jpg
New tram bridge alongside the mediaevel (OK, you spell it ;) ) old bridge.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_246.jpg
Arena in the background.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_247.jpg
Along the quayside...

That will have to do for now, but there should be loads more in the coming days...

Paul

[Captain_Scarlet]

You've been busy. We know we've taken ideas from each other's layout, I'd like to steal couple of your ideas I see here ;)

What's the medieval bridge? (seen on http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_244.jpg)
What is the cobble texture, church and pavements here? (seen on http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_162.jpg)
the pavements I recognise, but what are the road lines and the multi storey car park in the background (seen on http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_173.jpg)
what are the pavements and balisha beacons? (seen on http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_194.jpg)

Finally, I've noticed the curved single and double catenary poles. If you're bored of them, you can use http://www.smokefilledroom.co.uk/Gregsworld/Files/trainz/cdp/pack_catenaire_tram_ancienne.cdp which are similar single track catenary poles similar to the ones you've used. they're trackside items and will clip, wireless, to the track.

You've seen I've started (almost done) Chesterfield Tramway and it is only a testbed for Sheffield's, you've given me so many ideas, I'm keen n getting content kuid for me to do that ;) You've definitely got a feel in your tramlayout, the main thing is the feeling that tram has been built after the city, even if in practice the opposite is true.

Congrats on the work, you're the man!
Greg

[paulzmay]

@Captain_Scarlet - Thanks again for your kind words and encouragement! I'll try to answer your questions...

The medieval bridge is a recent spline by Brook from the DLS. There is a 6m and 8m wide version.

The cobble texture is by Andi06, part of his street kit. The church is by Brook (called chapel - stone). The pavements (except the island) are by mcortes - search for acera on the DLS (found under spain in surveyor). The island is by RW1HH (Rolf Westfalen).

The road lines are from Andi06's street kit. The car park markings are by gfisher 106916:10078 and 106916:10077. The multi storey is by kenichiro.

The zebra crossings are by Andi06. The pavements in this one are by engfer.

I look forward to seeing Chesterfield completed, and I'll really enjoy seeing Sheffield.

All the best...

Paul

[paulzmay]

Just one more for now...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_248.jpg

Paul

[paulzmay]

And here are some more...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_250.jpg
Maintenance van - reskin of Mike10's - I still need to tweak a few bits & bobs...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_251.jpg
Klinger, you must have taken out a lot of those billboards :D

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_252.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_253.jpg
Flinders Square (again).

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_255.jpg
St. James' Hospital seen from the quayside.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_256.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_257.jpg
A couple of cab views...

That's all for now...

Paul

[Captain_Scarlet]

Thanks Paul for the names and numbers, I've downloaded most of it :)

Nice screenshots there, I see Bridgehampton is advertising the Corporation. As usual, the ambiance is spot on, well done.

Greg

[Barchifowski]

I am liking this alot! I am really liking this alot! This is definately going to be a download.

[paulzmay]

Thanks for the kind comments. Yes, I thought I'd use my corporate ID a bit more...

Here's some more...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_258.jpg
Old European tram at Sturt Street.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_259.jpg
In the Old Town, passing the memorial.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_260.jpg
Somewhere else in the old town...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_261.jpg
Eastgate stop, together with the Eastgate Campus of the University.

That's all for now...

Paul

[paulzmay]

And a couple more...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_254.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_262.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_263.jpg

Paul

[BidMod]

I think you're just showing off now http://forums.auran.com/trainz/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif
Keep 'em coming http://forums.auran.com/trainz/forum/images/smilies/clap.gif

BidMod.

[paulzmay]

I think you're just showing off now http://forums.auran.com/trainz/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif
Keep 'em coming http://forums.auran.com/trainz/forum/images/smilies/clap.gif

BidMod.

Well, yes. Frankly I am :) . What else is the screenshots forum for?:rolleyes:

Paul

[paulzmay]

More pics...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_273.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_271.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_270.jpg

Paul

[Delia]

These shots are simply magnificent Paul, keep em coming!

Tom

[crodgersz2005]

Paul you deffinatley have quite a talent there for route building as such. The routes looking awesome and there's so much detail in the route too. Any ideas where i could download any tram poles, trams and other related stuff.

Keep it up.

Chris ;)

A Tram and Trainz fan ;)

[BidMod]

Take a look in the Survayor section for a thread labelled "Trams again" by rjhowie. It's dropped a few pages back, but it's still there. The signals on the French site are the only thing where there isn't an alternative on the DLS though, but it is a good place to find trams that aren't. There's another screenshot thread somewhere dedicated to subways, urban shots and tramways somewhere.

For track, the most commonly used is probably that by Andi06 and Motorman1066, but they aren't the only people. for the Westhaven trams, search for me :),but the originals were by Silversmith.

There are also a number of Eastern European tramway fans, where you might use the trams elsewhere.

[paulzmay]

Paul you deffinatley have quite a talent there for route building as such. The routes looking awesome and there's so much detail in the route too. Any ideas where i could download any tram poles, trams and other related stuff.

Keep it up.

Chris ;)

A Tram and Trainz fan ;)

There are quite a few pointers earlier in this thread too, but to add to what BidMod said, aslo search the DLS for michael-h's oberleitungsmast and any thing by Denis_fr and trams by Cosey. RW1HH also has some handy accessories and buildings.

Glad you like the route :D

Paul

[Tom_Associated]

wow, paul, these shots are amazing. Keep them coming.

Tom

[denis_fr]

Really wonderful map !! Congratulations !

I seen my tramway Citadis on some screenshots.

I show you my new creation. It's the tramway TFS (Tramway Standard Francais). This tram is running in Paris, Grenoble and Rouen.
http://den.dev.free.fr/TRS2004/photos/tfs_rouen-01.jpg

[razvan100]

Hello,

First of all I want to congratulate you for this magnificent route. I should say that all I have seen in this topic, is the pictures, and I didn't read it, and know I am asking you a question that maybe was already asked.
Is this route available somewhere?
Can someone, maybe andi06, explain to me how the traffic system works? I didn't manage him to work :(. I have also a tram route on witch I want to put some traffic, but I don't now how. Please I'm begging for help. I can show you some screens If you let me.

Sorry for my English,
Cheers,

[paulzmay]

@Tom_Associated - thanks :o I'm taking a bt of a break from this route for now whjile I get my new computer sorted out...

@Denis_fr - Thanks for your kind words! Your Citadis tram was one of the inspirations for starting the route...

I like the new TFS - Paris, Grenoble, Rouen and soon Bridgehampton (I hope)...

@razvan100 - First start with Andi's tutorials... http://www.ajsmith.nildram.co.uk/trs/street01.shtml
these should make it clear how they are supposed to work. Then have a look at this thread here: http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=8682&highlight=distance
for some more advanced ideas.

Hope this helps (and your English is very good).

Paul

[razvan100]

Thank you very much, I will try to make something simple first. I will tell you if I have a success.

[razvan100]

I have understand the system, thanks again.

You didn't answered: Did this route is available?
And second, the traffic system works in TRS 2004?

[paulzmay]

Sorry Razvan - to answer your other questions:

The route is not available yet, and it will be at least a few months before it is finished. However, as it is currently in TRS04, and I will be upgrading to '06 ver soon (new computer too), I may well upload an unfinished version for the benefit of people still using TRS2004.

And the street kit was written for '04.

Paul

[Tom_Associated]

However, as it is currently in TRS04, and I will be upgrading to '06 ver soon (new computer too), I may well upload an unfinished version for the benefit of people still using TRS2004.

And the street kit was written for '04.

Paul

Please do upload an 2004 version as i run 04 and would love to use this route.

I dont blame ya for taking a break you have worked really hard on this already. Now all i need to do is get a new computer aswell!

[razvan100]

Thank you again for the answer. I have traffic in TRS!

And I want to a TRS2004 version, it's a magnificent route.

[paulzmay]

Time for new shots!

I haven't got much more done, but I am now working on TRS06 on my new machine. I will upload a 2004 version fairly soon, but it will be unfinished and not guaranteed. I need to sort out permission for a couple of re-skinned items first...

Anyway, on with the pictures...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_001.jpg
Approaching Stevens Road.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_012.jpg
Coromandel Heath LL from the cab.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_004.jpg
Coromandel Heath Junction.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_003.jpg
Heading away from Coromandel Heath on the branch...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_005.jpg
Heading the opposite way towards Shakespeare Street.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_006.jpg
Shakespeare Street stop.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_009.jpg
Near Northgate.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_010.jpg
Looking the other way.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_002.jpg
View from the tower looking towards Flinders Square.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_008.jpg
Interesting sign seen near the docks line - think I should upload it??

That's all folks...

Paul

[Gangsta_Boi]

Looking good as ever ! I would upload the sign, would provide a little humour whilst touring the layout :p

Thanks,
Gangsta_Boi

[paulzmay]

OK - I've uploaded the sign, together with most of the custom items for the route. One pack rejected (silly error), so I'll do it again tonight. I'm still waiting to see if I can upload the variable speed boards, and I need to do some more work on a couple of building re-skins.

Anyway, I took a few more shots last night...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_013.jpg
Back in the old town.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_014.jpg
Leaving Eastgate on the docks line.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_016.jpg
Emerging from the underpass on the docks line.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_017.jpg
Frank Street stop - the lack of scenery due to this being the edge of the route (for now).

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_018.jpg
Driving another tram back into town...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_019.jpg
Arriving back at Eastgate.

And that's all for now...

Paul

[Barchifowski]

THIS IS AWSOME!!! Man this is an unbeleivable route! Awsome man!!! Please tell me this is going to be freeware.

[paulzmay]

It will be freeware, and there will be a TRS04 unfinished version out fairly soon...

The full (well phase 1) route will be in TRS06, and a few more months. I suspect it will take me more than a year more to complete the whole system :eek:

Paul

[adupuis]

wow your layout look so great.

[Sleaze]

Hi Paul,

Once again I keep coming here and being blown away by your layout. I am upgrading my PC soon and I hope to be able to run the route. I look forward to being able to download it and run it.

I have not forgotten that I promised you some pictures of my layout and I will be doing those. Unfortunately I may leave it until I have upgraded because I want to finnish some sections of the line first.

Once again
Keep up the good work...

[hyper_kameo]

hi, where abouts did you get that white tram from in your pics..... ive read post everywhere and searched every other mind numbing tram site in other lanuages ...grrrr so annoying

or can you send my the file for it ?


thanks heaps:)

[SHP]

I suppose you're looking for the Citadis by denis_fr. Just search for his username on the DLS and you'll be surprised. ;)
BTW, it is mostly not allowed to send any foreign content which makes asking for it a violation against the CoC: http://forums.auran.com/trainz/CodeOfConduct.htm

(http://forums.auran.com/trainz/CodeOfConduct.htm)@paulzmay: Great route, looking forward to it.

[hyper_kameo]

ok ta ... new to it all.... the games already hard enough to follow and work out let alone read rules about not asking for things....;)

[hyper_kameo]

ok found and installed

now what happens if they have missing dependenices??????
such as the ones i just downloaded

there are a few items in my list like that .... how do you fix them .... any help?????


thanks heaps

[m3henry]

download the assets it is depant on

[paulzmay]

OK - after a long absence (moved house - went on holiday - changed ISP - ISP went bust etc....), a couple of pictures...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_021.jpg
Elevated station over the ring-road

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_022.jpg
One of the stations in the underground section

I've actually done a good deal more than this, including merging a modified version of my old route London Suburbs to one end. More screens soon (ish).

Paul

[subwaymark]

Yes, I am drooling....:mop:

[paulzmay]

Did a bit more last night, and took a few more pics of the new bit...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_023.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_024.jpg
Portland Road Stop

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_025.jpg
Leaving Portland Road

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_026.jpg
Crossing the canal

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_027.jpg
Approaching Westward Heath

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_028.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_029.jpg
Westward Heath Low Level Station - some of you may recognise the former tube station from London Suburbs...

I'll post some more soon...

Paul

[bolivar]

Hi Paul. Where did you get the catenary especially referring to the support Poles. Are the all from the same modular design or did you use various sources?

[paulzmay]

@Bolivar - The silver poles you see are by michael-h and are on the DLS. The green ones are on PTram http://www.ptram.rwi.pl/ (registration required) in the section titled "Inne". For wires I either use the ones built into Denis_fr's track, or the new wires by crofelix on the DLS. I've also used Andi06's posts (grey with a spanwire between them).

And while I'm here...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_032.jpg
Leaving Westward Heath on the main line

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_030.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_033.jpg
Bridgehampton Station

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_034.jpg
Back underground...

And that really is all for now...

Paul

[LTU_UK_Masta]

mmmmmmmm, need a beta tester, I'm your man!

[paulzmay]

It'll be a while before I need beta testers, but when I do I'll post here - so keep an eye out...

And another picture while I'm here - the Back of Bridgehampton station taking shape...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_031.jpg

Paul

[paulzmay]

And some more...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_042.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_041.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_040.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_039.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_038.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_037.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_036-1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_035-1.jpg
All from the Athol Park area of the route, which I've been spending some time on.

[Gangsta_Boi]

WOW ! Looking good as ever ! Can I ask where you got the trams in the last set of screens ?

Sorry to be a pain,
Gangsta_Boi

[paulzmay]

IIRC they are the Astra and Flexity from PTram, and Denis_fr's new one from the DLS.

Paul

[Grainger1980]

Looking great... Not usually a tram man but might try my own little tramway on some of my routes.

Grainger

[paulzmay]

Thanks Grainger!

And a few more shots...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_045.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_044.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_043.jpg
More from Athol Park and surrounds.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_046.jpg
The Tramway approach to the high level platforms from the City.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_051.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_050.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_049.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_048.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_047.jpg
A few from the Northern approaches of Bridgehampton station.

I guess I'll have to go and build more now...

Paul

[Sleaze]

Hi Paul,

Is there any chance of seeing a plan of the overall layout. I am intrigued as to how the city has evolved. Excellent work on the commuter lines btw.

Thanks

[Gangsta_Boi]

Sorry to be such a pain, but where might i find KUID 94105:59005 ?

It's for the driving cab of the Bombardier Flexity tram, and it won't work without it.

Thanks,
Gangsta_Boi

[paulzmay]

@SLeaze - I have a rough one saved from Trainzmap - I'll post it later.

@GB - I wish I knew - I obviously already had it. It's either from one of the other trams on PTram, or it's from somewhere else. I can see what else needs it in CMP, and let you know. I'm on the wrong computer at the mo....

Paul

[paulzmay]

Sorry for the double post...

But...

@Sleaze -

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/BHMMap.gif

Just a rough map from TrainzMap, marked with the major suburbs and directions for future expansion. Red is Tramway, and black is main line.

@GB - The missing file is a horn sound from www.trsbingen.de in the KT4D zubehor (accessories) pack (I think). This link should get you there http://www.trsbingen.de/php/infusions/pro_download_panel/file.php?did=95&file_id=91 but you may have to register & log in first.

Paul

[oldie]

Hello Paul, screenshots are very, very good indeed, screenshots uploaded on 28th Aug, three or four of them are showing a semi-detached house with a red tiled roof, and stone coloured paintwork, may possibly have small front gardens included ?, is their a kuid for this house or a possible link, is it available for general use ? would be grateful for any help you can give....regards.

[paulzmay]

The houses are by James73, and are called quarter villas they come in a variety of colours, and also low and high poly versions.

Paul

[oldie]

Hello Paul, thank you, .......regards

[paulzmay]

Some more pictures from the Athol Park area of the route:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_060.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_058.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_057.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_056.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_055.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_054.jpg

Paul

[tdstead]

Must be a intresting area of England where all those different comapny 3rd rail electric trains can meet.

tom

[oldie]

Paul,...your screenshots are stunning,,

[paulzmay]

@tdstead - I'm just having a play at the moment - when I do an official release it should be based on Kent or East Sussex in the early 2000s (well VERY loosely). It's an imaginary port somewhere between Dover & Brighton...

@Oldie - thanks :o it's taken a long time to get this far (almost a year by now).

And while I'm here...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_053.jpg
Station Street viewed from the high level tram platforms.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_061.jpg
The high level tram station at Bridgehampton

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_065.jpg
Narrow streets in the old town

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_064-1.jpg
Coming up from the underpass heading towards Eastgate.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_063-1.jpg
Tram congestion in Flinders Square.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_062.jpg
Map of the central area.

And that's all for now...

Paul

[06davetwo]

WHEN will this be avalabil ?

[paulzmay]

It's going to be quite a while yet...

I still might release an unfinished TRS04 version, but it would have no speed signs, and would be untested. I would prefer to finish phase 1 properly in 2006 as planned, and I suspect that will be months away...

And 1 more pic...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_066.jpg

Paul

[ish6]

WOW .........................:wave:

[BidMod]

It's going to be quite a while yet...

I still might release an unfinished TRS04 version, but it would have no speed signs, and would be untested. I would prefer to finish phase 1 properly in 2006 as planned, and I suspect that will be months away...

WOW .........................:wave:

:Y: I agree, ishie, this will be worth the wait :D

[paulzmay]

OK - not much progress on the route recently, but I have been trying my hand at re-skinning...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_071.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_072-1.jpg

These are Cosey's Belgian LRVs in Bridgehampton Metro colours. I've asked Cosey if I can upload them, but not got an answer yet...

As you can see, I'm also working on a set of destination blinds to suit as well.

Paul

[oldie]

thought it was about time paul updated us with some recent screenshots,?

[paulzmay]

It probably is, but I've done almost nothing to the route since the last ones. I've spent most of my Trainz time recently on the next phase of my Westhaven route, doing re-skins and on trying to teach myself G-Max...

This work includes a project I'm working with BidMod on to create a set of UK style tramway signs:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_068-1.jpg

These are BidMod's mesh (with a few minor edits in some cases), and some textures from each of us... I hope to have a full set both with and without posts, left and right hand, with diverge limits and other ancillary signs ready in the next few weeks. The without posts will be in a range of offsets, and I've adjusted the mesh so it should sit on the front face of Silversmith's poles.

Paul

[paulzmay]

A little more progress...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_073-1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_074-1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_075.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_076-1.jpg

Around the Shakespeare St Stop.

Paul

[Captain_Scarlet]

Still excellent Paul, most excellent!
Paulzmay! Paulzmay! Tramtime, excellent!

[gisa]

Wow! It's been said countless times, but this is an amazing route! I think you have set the standard for those wanting a prototypical, fun and gorgeous tram route. :D

Thank you for posting all those awesome pictures and for taking the time to help us with the questions we had! I've been inspired and helped c/o your suggestions to improve the mini tram route I've decided to build in my route. :) Keep up the great work!

I (like so many others) look forward to downloading and playing with this route when it's finished and ready to go.

Again, keep up the great work and thanks!

:wave:

Gisa ^^

[paulzmay]

Thanks for the kind comments. It's still quite a long way off, and progress has slowed as I'm dividing my time between this and the next phase of Westhaven.

@Captain_Scarlet - I'm not worthy! I'm not worthy!

Paul

[Rugrat]

i dont really have any interest in trams but this is really getting to me! great urban modeling!

Rugrat

[toonsrule]

A little suggestion for when it's released:

Get a website and host it there for people like me who don't have an FCT so downloading routes can take weeks.

[paulzmay]

A little suggestion for when it's released:

Get a website and host it there for people like me who don't have an FCT so downloading routes can take weeks.

Unfortunately most of the download will be the dependencies, which, without permission, I couldn't upload elsewhere. If the route proves to be huge I may take up your suggestion, but it will only help to a limited extent.

Paul

[michael2541]

could ya point me towards the tram signals?
Mike

[paulzmay]

could ya point me towards the tram signals?
Mike

I've used more than one kind, so I'm not sure which you mean. Some are attached to the traffic lights by Andi06, some are by yannl, downloadable from BLH-trainz.com http://www.blh-trainz.com/downloads/SIGNAUX%20TRAM.cdp . I've also used colour light signals by Bloodnok.

Hope this helps...

Paul

[toonsrule]

This route is gonna ROCK when it's released - I just know it...

[boat]

Keep it coming Paul, EXCELLENT!

One question, not about the trams but about the mainline TRACK.

I'm in the middle of building a route using AJS's animated points. I'm therefore using one of the track choices associated with those points.

You seem to be using what looks like Bloodnok's VSR track for your main electrified line, (which in my opinion is one of the best track sets around). But you also seem to be using animated points…. Which from the picture at the bottom of page 7 of this thread, (view through train front window), seem to fit-in with the VSR track. I didn’t think the VSR track was compatible with the AJS point meshes…. So, have you found a way, or are you using different animated points, or am I seeing things?

Thanks,

Boat, (Mike)

[paulzmay]

The track is indeed VSR 3rd rail with Andi06's points. I just used the closest match, and hoped it wouldn't look too bad. I'm still looking for a 3rd rail spline to fill in the gaps with...

Progress on the route at the moment is non-existent, and I'm going to re-work much of the overhead and many of the crossings and junctions, so it will be a long while yet. I have, however just had permission to upload my re-skins of Cosey's trams (see a few posts earlier), so I'll finish them off and upload...

Paul

[Isaacg]

Will The Trams and Route be TC Compatible? Btw, If you Have TC maybe you could reskin CAB's NF10 Combino(The Silver LRV) in Bridgehampton Metro Colors(With CAB's Permission of course, to release it) Or Maybe Since I'm Learning to Reskin:eek: .... I could do it for us TCers!:wave:

Happy Holidays!
Isaac Grove

P.S. Be good or you'll get a lump of coal from Santa! LOL!(It'd acually benefit if you have a steam train....LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!:hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

[Lo_Poly]

Oh... my... god... this is amazing. :udrool::udrool::mop:


By the way, Paulzmay, where did you get that trampoline?

[boat]

The track is indeed VSR 3rd rail with Andi06's points. I just used the closest match, and hoped it wouldn't look too bad. I'm still looking for a 3rd rail spline to fill in the gaps with...

Progress on the route at the moment is non-existent, and I'm going to re-work much of the overhead and many of the crossings and junctions, so it will be a long while yet. I have, however just had permission to upload my re-skins of Cosey's trams (see a few posts earlier), so I'll finish them off and upload...

Paul

Thanks Paul......

Yes, the rail mesh is a bit thicker on the points than the VSR track. Maybe we can persuade Andi06 to do his brilliant point with a VSR mesh sometime…. For VSR lovers?!

Meantime I’m using AJS default track, (and to be honest, since I run scenarios and not sessions, it’s a bit difficult to change to the others anyway).

Regards,

Boat

[boat]

One other thing Paul, (or anyone).

I've just got a 'roadworks - single lane - alternate stop-go' set-up to work using AJS's street set, (and a bit of my scenario).

I would love to find a SINGLE facing roadworks style traffic light that has scriptable coronas . Drawn a blank so far on the DLS.

I wondered if you had any ideas?

Thanks,

Boat, (Mike)

[paulzmay]

@Isaacg - I doubt if the route will be fully TC compatible. I suspect there will at least be a large amount of missing content from TRS06. I'm trying to use a decent amount of built-in stuff to avoid folks having too much to download, unfortunately this may leave TC users out in the cold... Once the route is ready, I'd like someone to try it, and see how easy the conversion is.

I suspect that CAB would not allow a re-skin of the NF10, but you can always ask. As it's only a single ended tram it could only be used on one line of the route, so I'd rather re-skin something reversible (for instance Denis_fr's Citadis).

@Lo_poly - Thanks! I think it's by Advance, and it's on the DLS for certain.

@ Boat - Hmm - good luck with that request. Andi doesn't usually go for fiddly requests like that - he is, however, very generous with his meshes, so if you fancy having a go yourself, it's always worth asking.
I'm working on single ended traffic lights myself at the moment, working from Andi's original traffic lights. A road-works version is certainly possible - send me a picture, and I might get round to it. Single ended versions of Andi's lights are definitely going to happen, though.

@Everyone - MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!

All the best...

Paul

[Isaacg]

Hi! Yeah, I see what you mean about the NF10. You could alway pop in a turntable(but that'd take up to much space). Btw, I saw someone reskin the NF10 FOR THEIR OWN USE, OF COURSE. Abou the Compatability with TC-- I have most of the Content from 06 in TC! And evrything from even 04 is in TC...;)


Happy Holidays,
Isaac From The Tampa Bay Metropolitan Area!!!!

[paulzmay]

It's not just the turning round - that can easily be accomplished with turning loops, it's more the fact that, as a German tram, all the doors are on the right, so to run it in the UK, all the platforms have be in the middle of the road....

I've done this on one line, but it would look silly for the whole network.

Paul

[Isaacg]

OOOHHH! I get it now. I'm american(25% Cherokee Indian--Hey! I thought Indians didn't like trains!LOL)but I prefer Uk trains because in my area I don't know what trains in the us really look llike except a few(my Homtown in the metro area is starting to like trans and a new system mof 400 miles of Track will be put all around and a huge terminal 4 blocks fromm my house! YAY I get to Railfan now!!!!! But I forgot, in the UK you guys drive on the left! I'm going to england this summer 2008 one week before schools get out in June 3rd. But Last school year my school system ended school on MAY 18 so now I get out Later! boo hooo!!!!!:'( . But I hope to Take some Pics of you're lovely collection the DfT has! I may even Take A Train If luck permitts! Which sshould I choose Hmmm! GEML, WCML,ECML, XCML, GWML, Wessex ML, Midland ML, West Coastway, East Coastway, SWML, soooo mmmm aaaa nnnnnnyy tooo chhhooooooossse! Here in the States we only Have a government-corrupt Amtrak which is ssoo corny! LOL:hehe: :hehe:

EDIT: Wait YOure an Aussie, Not a brit!lol But youre doing an English Route!

[paulzmay]

In fact, you were right the first time. I'm a Brit who moved over here 2½ years ago. I just got my Aussie citizenship about a week ago in fact. I guess I still have a better feel for what looks right in the UK than I have for Australia.

Hope you enjoy your trip to the UK - the train is a pretty good way of getting about for a visitor. If you expect to travel by train a lot, then investigate a Britrail pass. If you go to London take the train whatever - driving is a nightmare...

Paul

[Isaacg]

Hi!

Thanks for travelling tip! I can't drive anyway because I'm 14. The reason why I'm going to the U.K. is because I'm on a student ambassador trip! LOL. The Program staff have all the transportation info. So I don't really know if ill be taking a train, coach or airplane. Congrats on you're citizenship. My mother is from NZ and she's trying to get American citizenship but, it's taking soooo llllooonnng. Btw, How do I use Andi06's Street kit-- meaning the one way and multi-lane roadways. I set them up in surveyor but the still go the same way. Grrrr! I put a signal in the scene and the traffic controller, etc. and The lights work but not the Streets!!!!! GRRRRRRRRR! Do you also know of any modern tramway stations(apart from cosey and iceman)? You're route is nice. When do you reckon it will be released? TODAY(I wish!!!) I could beta test if you want!

I GIVE YOU AN A+

Happy (Late) Holidays,
Isaac Marchant Grove

[boat]

@Boat - Hmm - good luck with that request. Andi doesn't usually go for fiddly requests like that - he is, however, very generous with his meshes, so if you fancy having a go yourself, it's always worth asking.
I'm working on single ended traffic lights myself at the moment, working from Andi's original traffic lights. A road-works version is certainly possible - send me a picture, and I might get round to it. Single ended versions of Andi's lights are definitely going to happen, though.

Paul

Hi Paul.... Thanks for the suggestions. The AJS default track will be fine for now!
And I don't have any pictures of the lights I'd like. Don't mind really, just so long as its a single way, stand alone type. Mods to Andi06's will be fine when they happen. (Might try myself - Some arrowed directions would be good too!). Till then, I will hide the other half in something. I just wish the coronas didn't shine through everything!


Cheers,

Boat

PS - Congratulations on your Auzmanship.
I spent a month in Adelaide when my parents ‘emigrated’ in the late 60’s. They didn’t like it so back we came!
I could have lived my life somewhere WARM! :cool:
Oh well!

[GHEORGHITA]

Hello

Exist timetable functionally for Trainz 2006? or modern Tram with destinaton table?

[paulzmay]

@Isaacg - This tutorial http://www.ajsmith.nildram.co.uk/trs/pdf/street%20kit.pdf should give you what you need to know about traffic lights and one-way streets.

I can't think of any other tram stops at the moment. Most of mine are built from the AJS station kit, with -Basti-'s platform splines and other items added by hand.

The route is still a long way off. There is quite a lot of the overhead and junctions I'm not very happy with, and I'm spending most of my Trainz time working on the extension to my Westhaven project. I will certainly let you beta test if you're interested, but it will probably be 6 months + away. You will also need a pretty fast computer and either a first class ticket or the patience of a saint for downloading the dependencies...

@Boat - some of the lights I'm already working on sound like they would be suitable. Drop me a PM with your e-mail address, and I'll send you a beta.

Right now it's a bit too warm here - it topped 40°C yesterday, and it's forecast even higher today.

@GHEORGHITA - There are rules for creating timetables in TRS2006, but I have used the 'schedule library' rule and 'copy commands' driver command to control the trams on this route.

@Everyone - Happy New Year!

Paul

[Isaacg]

@Isaacg - This tutorial http://www.ajsmith.nildram.co.uk/trs/pdf/street%20kit.pdf should give you what you need to know about traffic lights and one-way streets.

Paul

Hey Paul!!

I got the hang of it! it's all layed out but the cars still go the auran way

Like this!
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Median
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Do I have to go into driver to see the results? Please Help!!!

Can I have a beta of your traffic lights? Do they look like Kessicas?

[paulzmay]

I think you need to re-read the tutorial a little more carefully. Where you have traffic going the wrong way you need to force it to turn off, leaving you with only the traffic you want. Try setting up the examples shown in the document to get an idea. Going into Driver doesn't affect the flow of traffic, except that the traffic lights only work in Driver.

You're welcome to beta test (send me your e-mail address by PM)- my lights look like Andi06's, because I've based them on his G-Max files that he was kind enough to supply.

By the way, this probably isn't the best place for these queries - there hasn't been a screenshot in over a page now...

Paul

[boat]

@Boat - some of the lights I'm already working on sound like they would be suitable. Drop me a PM with your e-mail address, and I'll send you a beta.

Paul

Hi Paul, PM sent.
Let me know if you don't get it.
(The only other time I sent a PM to someone else, I never got a reply) :'(


Mike

[tdstead]

Remember reading in the forum about people adding a visable or non-visible non traffic road to make one way streets, it it is invisable or matched the street in use you could ut it between the street and the intersection might have crs being genereated just dissapearing but might be the best we can do.

Only other way I can think of is a non Traffic street and use invisble Traffic spines to get it to do what you want

Hope this helps

Tom




Tom

[Isaacg]

HI Paul!

HOws the route going?
btw, I love your Westthaven Coast route. I'm startting a cornish route

Cheers!
Isaacg

[paulzmay]

@Tom - That's pretty much what I usually do. As traffic is only generated at the visible ends of road splines, if these are no-traffic, you won't get any generated at that end. Where you have ready made intersections that generate traffic, adding a short length of invisible no-traffic road will cure this.

@Isaacg - No progress at all in weeks, as I'm spending all my Trainz time on the Westhaven route (which I'm glad you like). I have, however created a few assets I intend to use on Bridgehampton, so it's a small step in the right direction.

Good luck with the Cornish route...

Paul

[Louise_T]

paul sorry I got to ask how long before this cool route is going to be released :)

[paulzmay]

Sometime this year (probably). I'm sorry, but whenever I make some kind of estimate it always proves to be very wrong. I'm going to finish Westhaven Coastal first, and then come back to it, so it will not be in the next six months whatever.

The level of interest in a route that I haven't worked on in weeks is certainly encouraging. I will finish it eventually - I just have a lot to fix and revise that I'm no longer happy with (mostly overhead and road / tram junctions).

In the meantime, you might want to start downloading about half the DLS (over 2000 assets used so far), and getting a PC upgrade - you'll need it... :p

Oh, and this is still only phase 1...

Paul

[bilbrook]

Very impressive layouts, pleased you can show us how to build a detailed tram route. I wish i could do the same. Keep up the good work.



Regards Stuart

[Louise_T]

okies paul np thanks for the answer :)

[Isaacg]

How's the route going. I'll make a reskin for Bridgehampton on the Network Rail lines(meaning the mainline rail). Like the Westhaven Turbostar.

cheers!
Isaac Grove

[boat]

Inspired by this thread, I’ve just made a ‘single facing’ traffic light that will work with the AJS Street Kit.

There will be three choices of position. Either a single light, mid road position or two diagonally opposite single facing lights for LHD or the same for RHD, (and totally invisible.)
It does not have tram signals but you can wire it in to work with the AJS lights.
Also, there is a choice of traffic detector visible or not. And you can have a concrete base, a barrel base or no base.
Unless I have any unforeseen problems it should be on the DLS in a week or so, It will be <kuid:76656:1152>.

It’s based on Andi06’s 3.5 crossing and uses a modified script from that asset. Thanks to Andi for the permission to modify.

Boat

[boat]

I think somewhere in this thread, there was a question about getting road traffic to 'turn-out' like a railway point.

Just to let you know, (and an excuse to keep this thread alive), I've just put my Road Switcher, (point) up on the DLS that may be of interest to city scape fans...

See http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=23587

Boat

[Isaacg]

Thanks Boat for your wounderful contributions(And yes, keeping this thread alive). While I'm here, how's bridgehampton going? Or are you still working on Westhave Coastal?

Cheers!
Isaac

[paulzmay]

I'm not working on much at the moment - it's too hot, and I'm too busy doing other stuff... Westhaven Coastal doesn't need a lot more work now - there's more testing and scheduling than building needed now. I did find time for one building session on Bridgehampton, but I just depressed myself over how much I'm not happy with, and will have to re-do.

Thanks to boat for the new items - I'll have to download them and have a play - they look useful...

All the best...

Paul

[oldie]

Hello paul, thank you for your brief update, nice to hear you are well,..regards

[boat]

I'm not working on much at the moment - it's too hot, and I'm too busy doing other stuff... Westhaven Coastal doesn't need a lot more work now - there's more testing and scheduling than building needed now. I did find time for one building session on Bridgehampton, but I just depressed myself over how much I'm not happy with, and will have to re-do.

Thanks to boat for the new items - I'll have to download them and have a play - they look useful...

All the best...

Paul

Now you see, if you'd stayed in good old Blighty, you could be enjoyning 4 degrees temperature, drizzle, strong winds and dull skys right now!

The Switcher should be through the Auran system soon I hope.

Boat

[paulzmay]

Now you see, if you'd stayed in good old Blighty, you could be enjoyning 4 degrees temperature, drizzle, strong winds and dull skys right now!

The Switcher should be through the Auran system soon I hope.

Boat

Whereas I'm here in Adelaide 'enjoying' the longest heatwave since they started recording such things.... http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/13/2188414.htm

...now where's that cold beer....? :o

Paul

[tdstead]

Yes too hot to work on Trainz much here too ... 33 & 36's for the next 4 days

Tom

[demon_eric]

Last ones for now...

Videos:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/th_trainz003.jpg (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/?action=view&current=trainz003.flv)http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/th_trainz002.jpg (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/?action=view&current=trainz002.flv)http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/th_trainz001.jpg (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/?action=view&current=trainz001.flv)


Thumbs:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/th_tScreen_144.jpg (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_144.jpg)http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/th_tScreen_143.jpg (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_143.jpg)
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/th_tScreen_142.jpg (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_142.jpg)http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/th_tScreen_141.jpg (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_141.jpg)

And one new one...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_145.jpg

Paul
what is the download link for the combino

[paulzmay]

The Combino is from the ptram website, which seems to change it's URL with monotonous regularity. I don't think the site is around at the moment, unless anyone else knows different...

BTW - it's a bit tidier not to quote all of the screenshots from a post. In fact it really winds some folks up...

Paul

[Red_Rattler]

I thought I posted in this thread, oh well.

BTW - it's a bit tidier not to quote all of the screenshots from a post. In fact it really winds some folks upWell YES it does ANNOY people. But I avoid it by using "No quoting permitted", or better still, just use the link addresses to the images. Quoting images also involves unnecessary scrolling.

Paulzmay, is it still going to be TRS2004 suitable?
Also, what video program are you using, as I don't see the fraps logo on your videos.

[paulzmay]

I wouldn't go as far as to ban quoting, as sometimes quoting a single picture (especially from several pages back) is easier than saying 'the third picture in the second post on page 5'. Just quoting the whole post was a little lazy - plus it took me a while to realise there was a Combino in the pictures, as it was only in one of the thumbnails in the middle.

The route will be for '06 only as it is now. I still have a copy of it from pre-conversion, but a lot has been done since. It also has a re-skinned speedboard that I have since changed because I never managed to get permission, so that would forever be a missing dependency.

The program is from www.zdsoft.com , and I think it's called game recorder. I've heard it reported that it has a lesser impact on frame rates than fraps. I've just got the free demo, so it's only about a minute a time. There's a couple more on my Westhaven screens thread if you're interested.

Paul

[Red_Rattler]

The route will be for '06 only as it is now...

...There's a couple more on my Westhaven screens thread if you're interested.I'll have a look, but a bit pointless as seeing I and many others won't be able to use the route.

[demon_eric]

The Combino is from the ptram website, which seems to change it's URL with monotonous regularity. I don't think the site is around at the moment, unless anyone else knows different...

BTW - it's a bit tidier not to quote all of the screenshots from a post. In fact it really winds some folks up...

Paul
thank you for edvicing me

[paulzmay]

I'll have a look, but a bit pointless as seeing I and many others won't be able to use the route.

The next Westhaven instalment will be for TRS04 - it's just Bridgehampton I'm building on my new machine (which has TRS06).

Paul

[boat]

Just thought I'd put this up here as it may be of interest to you, Paul... (for Westhaven or Bridgehampton perhaps?)

On the DLS soon, my new working Pelican Crossing. A 5Mtr and a 9Mtr version should be on the DLS soon. (LHD and RHD option)

Boat

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii138/boat41/Pelicanex.jpg

[Isaacg]

Boat, that is wounderful!

You should make a whole set.

Isaac Grove

[boat]

Hi

Well the 5 & 9 Mtr just uploaded.... Maybe a double traffic lane one next!!?? :udrool:

Boat

[paulzmay]

Nice one Boat! I'll be using that one for sure. Can I suggest a 4-lane version and a single sided 2 lane version (crossings on dual carriageways are usually split into 2 halves and staggered).

Railings to match are on the DLS by Kessica from years back BTW.

Paul

[boat]

Hi Paul,

Yes, the staggered version was in my mind.... Also, perhaps one staggered with tram tracks down the center with space for an AJS Tram Station?

They may be a while those two though!!! See how my time goes.

Thanks for the railing tip!

Boat,

PS I just realised I forget to put the extra coronas on the DLS last night, so there may be a short delay between the above Traffic Light appearing and 3 of its dependent assets... Oops! :o
Putting them up now.

[Isaacg]

I know this isnt the right place, but it's a good time to ask,

Can you make a street lamp with and without banners like shown here, with just the only difference to be this lamp fixture?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Downing_Street.jpg


http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/download?mid=c283515c3b504077270d6b853b817c2b&rtyp=lt&ctyp=other

Like I mentioned above? I know this is the wrong place to ask, but we've moved fromo talking about Bridgehampton, to making street lights(LOL:hehe: )

Cheers!

Isaac(BTW> Paul, how's the route?)

[boat]

Hi Isaac,

No, this isn't the place... but it brings this thread back to the top, so what the ***

However, that’s a bit beyond me at the moment. I only started using GMax seriously about a month ago so I'm just bumbling around with it really. I think an expert would be appalled…. And if you look closely, my T lights don’t have a lot of finesse!
:(

I’m sure someone else will have a go…. Or give me a year or two!

Boat

[Isaacg]

Hi Isaac,

No, this isn't the place... but it brings this thread back to the top, so what the ***

However, that’s a bit beyond me at the moment. I only started using GMax seriously about a month ago so I'm just bumbling around with it really. I think an expert would be appalled…. And if you look closely, my T lights don’t have a lot of finesse!
:(

I’m sure someone else will have a go…. Or give me a year or two!

Boat

Sorry Boat,

I thought.... Oh never mind ;). You've got a PM in your box.

[paulzmay]

An actual new screenshot in this thread...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_082-1.jpg

....see, it's not totally vapourware... :o

Paul

[Isaacg]

An actual new screenshot in this thread...

{Photo Removed for those who get annoyed when someone quotes a photo ;)}

....see, it's not totally vapourware... :o

Paul

Hey Paul!

Good to see Bridgehampton is still going steady! I've got several new items myself coming out onto the American Trainz Market. May I ask, where did those nice glass towers come from? They'll do wonders on a route or two of mine!

Cheers and Keep Going at it!

Isaac Grove

[boat]

Hi Paul... and all :wave:

My Pelicans are finally on the DLS...........

kuid:76656:500003 & kuid:76656:500004

Let me know how you find them!

Boat

[Captain_Scarlet]

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/tScreen_145.jpg

PaulHi Paul,
I know I've asked you before but I've just not been on the DLS nor in Trainz of late. Is the road a ground texture? (which one?) what are the pavement splines and do they exist in smaller segments?

Nice near-town-centre shot. Recession hitting Bridgehampton?

Cheers, Greg

[tdstead]

Great work, still growing, nice to see your some of the nice Britsh content thatci have discovered, the nice terraces by a couple of authors and shoves buildings that are just great.

Only wish what I created looked that good, maybe it will change with the L&BR monorail, think it looking ok.


Tom

P.S. Myself I rather the small images, yours are really clear and give me a great view and easyer on my slow connection.

[paulzmay]

@Isaacg - Most of the buildings you can see in that shot are by Polish creators (some by kilanziom perhaps). I'll check kuids when I have the route up next. They are all fairly recent, and mostly on the DLS (I think).

@Boat - they're downloaded - expect to see them on one of my routes soon(ish).

@Greg - That cobble texture is by Andi06, part of his street kit. The pavement is by mcortes from the DLS. That last shot is in fact between diverging tracks at the approach to the central station, hence the wasteland look.

@Everyone - thanks for your kind comments - I will finish it one day - promise :o

Paul

[boat]

Hi Paul & All.

Sorry to hi-jack this thread again but its fast becoming THE thread for Street Fans………. And you said you were going to use my Pelican Crossings, so……

There is a problem with the 9 Metre version. The plan was that putting a ‘train’ (from AJS’s Traffic Controller) on the ‘90 degrees to the road’ track would set the Pelican Crossing to operate. That’s fine.

The other two tracks, set parallel to the road were there to connect trams track to, and run trams across. These were not intended to operate the Pelican Crossing….. But they do!
Trainz sees the approaching tram as a ‘train coming’ and operates the crossing and stops the traffic. Of course it does – Doh! I only realised this when I used them myself in a proper scenario!!!

The workaround for now will be to NOT connect tram track to the ‘parallel to the road’ track. Just use it as a guide and lay your tram track over that invisible track. I’ll see if I can come up with a fix and issue a kuid2, but since the Trainz Native coding does this, I doubt if there is one…. Other than removing the ‘tram track’ attachment points altogether!

Sorry for the mess up. :'(

Boat

[CoachMan888]

Hi Boat

Probably wrong thread but as you said it's been hi-jacked by street scene.

I am using your Pelican crossings on a tram layout. They will only work if connected to another Pelican crossing. Am I doing something wrong or can they not be used as a stand alone feature?

I tried connecting both the invisible tracks at 90deg to the road but it wouldn't work. Connecting to another Pelican and it does!

Do you have an instruction site somewhere?


Regards
Coachman888

[Isaacg]

Hey Paul!

How's progress? I'm dying to see more of B'hampton. Also, I'd like to comment about the reskins of Cosey's BN LRVs... have you decided to release them, or has he denied permission for you to release?

Cheers!
Isaac Grove

[paulzmay]

I'm making a bit of progress at the moment (the PC with my Westhaven project in TRS2004 on it has died - don't worry it's probably only the Motherboard, and I have a recent backup). I'll post some screens when I have something to show.

Cosey has given me permission to upload the LRV re-skins. They are almost complete, except for the destination textures.

I was thinking of having a go at re-skinning Denis_fr's Citadis trams too, but I haven't asked him yet...

Paul

[Isaacg]

I'm making a bit of progress at the moment (the PC with my Westhaven project in TRS2004 on it has died - don't worry it's probably only the Motherboard, and I have a recent backup). I'll post some screens when I have something to show.

Cosey has given me permission to upload the LRV re-skins. They are almost complete, except for the destination textures.

I was thinking of having a go at re-skinning Denis_fr's Citadis trams too, but I haven't asked him yet...

Paul

That sounds good Paul! I'm looking forward to the BN LRV and Citadis as well. I was thinking of reskining PTram's combino(with permission, of course)


Isaac Grove

[boat]

Hi Boat

Probably wrong thread but as you said it's been hi-jacked by street scene.

I am using your Pelican crossings on a tram layout. They will only work if connected to another Pelican crossing. Am I doing something wrong or can they not be used as a stand alone feature?

I tried connecting both the invisible tracks at 90deg to the road but it wouldn't work. Connecting to another Pelican and it does!

Do you have an instruction site somewhere?


Regards
Coachman888

Hi CoachMan,

Yes, they should work on their own but you will need to use an AJS Traffic Controller - Kuid2:122285:1152:1 to make it operate. (See my Properties Dialogue Box). There are instructions in the AJS Traffic Controller asset as well. You need to connect this to either of the 90 degree tracks.

As I say, the only problem is, don't use the parallel rail tracks in the 9Mtr version.

Perhaps I didn’t make this quite clear, so I’ll do some instructions and post them in 'Freeware Announcements' when I get chance. Look out for a thread called 'Pelican Crossing Instructions'. It may be a few days before I have time though.

Future things about Pelicans can then be posted there giving this thread back to Paul!!! Sorry.

Boat

[CoachMan888]

Thank you Boat

Thank you Paul, looking forward to your layout.

Regards
Coachman888

[paulzmay]

Finally - more screenshots....

Heading North...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_083.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_084.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_086-1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_087.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_088.jpg
Crossing the viaduct and elevated section out of the main station.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_089-1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_101-1.jpg
Bowes Street station.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_090-1.jpg
Westward Heath (High Level) - is this familiar to anyone?

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_091.jpg
Viaduct over the canal.

And that'll do for now. I also have some shots taken running South - I'll post those later...

Paul

[paulzmay]

And a few more heading into the southern suburbs...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_092-1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_094-1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_095-1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_096-1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_097-1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_098-1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_099-1.jpg

Paul

[toonsrule]

This route is going to be SO awesome. Any release date yet?

[Isaacg]

This route is going to be SO awesome. Any release date yet?


Well, as this route has been ongoing for 3 years(correct me Paul, if I'm wrong). I'm not really sure....

Isaac

[paulzmay]

This route is going to be SO awesome. Any release date yet?

In a word - No!

There's not a huge number of blank boards left, but there is an awful lot that I'm not happy with in many areas of the route. I may also need to look at rationalising the assets used in some areas so you don't need a super-computer to run it...

At the same time, I'm also putting the finishing touches to the second Westhaven route (which is stuck on my dead PC at the moment), and I've also made a start to two new projects (I know I shouldn't). One of these is an outer suburban module which will later become a part of Bridgehampton Metro, and the other is totally unrelated. I'll post some pictures of the suburban module later.

Paul

p.s. It's getting on for 2 years now... I think I started in September 2006.

[paulzmay]

As promised - some pics of the suburban module, to be entitled "Hampton Mall"

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_093-1.jpg
Through the shopping centre car-park.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_100-1.jpg
I've been playing with signals... :p

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_102-1.jpg
A bit of an aerial view. The route will be about 4 boards, stretching from a business park in open countryside, past a major out-of town shopping centre, and then heading towards the city...

And that's all for now...

Paul

[oldie]

Hello, as usual --------------stunning, kindest regards

[Isaacg]

Paul, for future reference, Denis_Fr's Citadis LRVs do use P-Dehnert's ChaneDestSign feature in Trainz. Usual procedures apply. Look for a picture somewhere, after I find a suitable place to post it.


Isaac

[Delia]

Great shots again Paul, this route is looking the business! In your last shot, what parts did you use to make the big building right in the middle, the one with the glass pyramids?? I have a great use for these on my layout!

Thanks

Tom

[ICEIT]

WOW PAUL!!! This is imense!!! :D

would it be possible to email me when it is finished. I can't wait !!!!
my email is daniel.p.walsh@btinternet.com (daniel.p.walsh@btinternet.com)

Cheers

Dan

P.S IT IS SO TOTALLY WICKED!!!!!!!!!!:udrool:

P.P.S STILL LOVING IT!!!!!:udrool:

P.P.P.S WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!:udrool: :D ;) :cool: :sleep: :clap: :Y:

[paulzmay]

@Delia - oops - I read your post ages ago, and then forgot to reply - sorry! The buildings are by weevil, and are titled Industrial D01 - Industrial D10. The pyramids are by Bendorsey, and the arcade glass roofs are part of Andi06's station kit. The entrances are the conference hall from www.mytrainz.tk by Angelus12.

@ICEIT - Thanks for your kind words. It will be on the DLS when finished, but that will be quite a while still (probably next year). Subscribe to this thread for updates, and it will let you know any news. It's not generally advisable BTW to post your e-mail address on the forum, as that's one of the main ways that spammers get hold of e-mail addresses. In the meantime, my previous route Westhaven Trams is on the DLS, and I'll be releasing an extension to that first...

and a progress shot, as this is the screenshots forum...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_112fs.jpg

Showing my new elevated rail items.

Paul

[Red_Rattler]

sorry 4 text post but I keep getting disconnected.

Paul, mind if I extend W/haven tram - 4 PERSONAL USE, and maybe change a track here or there. The current W/haven route doesnt seem 2 have any "oomph" about it ATM.

[Red_Rattler]

Edit to above post: Paul, where do you get that track as shown in this picture (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_093-1.jpg) Sorry if this gets posted 2 times, as I got disconnected for the 4th time!

[paulzmay]

Don't mind at all if you extend for personal use. If you haven't started yet, you may want to wait a bit and add it to my extension (or extend the other way). I've raised my game considerably since the first version, so there's better overhead, better track alignment, proper tram lanes & road markings, better road crossings, people, new signals and new speed signs. All this in addition to the tram extension, narrow gauge line, and standard gauge extension... (pictures here if you're interested http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=6544)

The track in the foreground of the picture is Andi06's tram track (without wires), with my red asphalt spline added. In the background you can just make out track by Denis_fr.

Paul

[paulzmay]

More pics from Hampton Mall:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_117.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_118-1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_119-1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_120-1.jpg

Paul

[Delia]

More great pics Paul! Route is looking the dogs! I managed to find the Conference Hall, but I can't find the Industrial D01-10 buildings on the DLS. I have tried searching under Weevil and under their names, but to no avail. I have also managed to find the glass pyramid.

No hurry in reply, just at your leisure.

Many Thanks

Tom

[paulzmay]

Have you checked the Trainz 1.3 and UTC boxes?

[paulzmay]

Just a few more WIP pics from Hampton Mall...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_124-1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_125-1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_126-1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_127-1.jpg

Paul

[Delia]

Yes, I tried that, and I still can't find them :(

Tom

[kevaylett]

hi there

where did those signals you used at the top of the page from?

cheers

[paulzmay]

@Delia - They are Trainz 1.3, and coming up fine for me on the TRS04 DLS page. Try kuid 9000:27410 and download the pack.

@kevaylett - They are by me, and will be released in the next few weeks. They are based on the tramsignal mesh from Andi06's crossings, but enlarged to regulation size, and with individual coronas for each LED. They come in left and right hand versions at various offsets from the track, and also include diverge versions.

Paul

[toonsrule]

Hello. I've been looking for stations at that [light rail] platform height for ages. Where did you get them if you don't mind me asking?

BTW: Awesome as always!

[paulzmay]

The platform is Andi06's standard station kit platforms (mostly the 50m version from his old kit, or the tram stop, combined with platform splines from -Basti-.

Paul

[boat]

Paul,

This may be of interest....

http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=29909

[ish6]

wo, incredible workw ... :wave: :p
Ish

[paulzmay]

Just a quick bit of Video...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/th_trainz06.jpg (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/?action=view&current=trainz06.flv)

Paul

[paulzmay]

I've recently been working on ANOTHER mini-route, this one just a single board, but designed to be placed to the south of the main Bridgehampton Metro map. It was really just a testbed for Boat's excellent new traffic lights (it features 4 sets in various configurations), but I'll finish and release it when I'm happy... (still a lot of work to do)

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_150-1.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_149.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_144.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_148-1.jpg

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[paulzmay]

I've been doing some more work on Hampton Mall... this mini-route may be ready for release fairly soon.

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Paul

[Iced8383]

That's one nice route!!!!

Iced8383

[whistlehead]

Fab!

Chris

[tardis626]

I've been doing some more work on Hampton Mall... this mini-route may be ready for release fairly soon.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_159-1.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_161-1.jpg
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Paul

Sorry about quoting the pictures. I removed the ones where it is less odvious, You may want to lower that catenery as it seems abit high. The route looks great though!

phil

[paulzmay]

But if I run Denis_fr's Citadis or any of the Modula City trams it's perfect, In fact it's designed to match those things exactly. Unfortunately, there is no exact standard for these things...

Paul

[whistlehead]

There hasn't been a post on here for ages.

Is there any more progress?

Or is everyone still on holiday?

[paulzmay]

Still plugging away slowly. I'll be re-fitting the main route with BOAT's ATLS traffic light system, and re-building the overhead, so that will still be a long time coming. I should also upgrade my memory before I get into that.

The two mini routes may well be finished sooner. There's not a lot to do on the Bridgehampton South 1 board route - it's mostly a test bed for ATLS anyway. The Hampton Mall route has just had a 2 board rural extension added, so I'll finish that bit before I release it.

My next release will probably be my next Westhaven Route, which I'm getting beta tested now.

So I'm not totally idle... just really slow.

Paul

[whistlehead]

It's alive! The thread's alive!

Now you've nearly finished westhaven costal, are you coming back to this again? It's too good just to put down.

[paulzmay]

Made a start the other day on changing most of the crossings and road junctions over to ATLS, and replacing most of the overhead on the main route. There's still quite a few areas needing scenery finishing as well, so although it's my next project, it won't be finished for a long while yet...

Paul

[paulzmay]

Couple of new shots from Bridgehampton South...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_195-1.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_198-1.jpg

Paul

[Captain_Scarlet]

Nice city shot there Paul. Loving it. I must ask you once more about objects you've used (you are a cunning weasel); What is the church in the background? What is the hotel on the left behind the modern statue?

Cheers,
Greg.

[paulzmay]

The hotel is by Domsarto - I think it might be called Central Hotel. The Church is 286036:28102 on the DLS.

More magpie than weasel... :o

Paul

[Captain_Scarlet]

More cunning than professor Cunningham from Cunning University Baldrick?

[whistlehead]

That's from black adder, isn't it? Anyway, back on topic; :udrool::udrool::udrool::udrool::udrool::udrool:

[Captain_Scarlet]

It is Black Adder and I think we're on topic, unless you have screenshots of Bridgehampton yourself.

Paul, thank you for the KUID, great find.

[whistlehead]

:udrool::udrool::udrool::udrool::udrool::udrool:

[mgreen48]

I have been absent from the community about 5 yrs. Yes real life and jobs got in the way but it is good to be back and then find this. This is a fantastic layout I am completely speechless and amazed. :udrool: :udrool: :udrool: :D

I was once working on my own tram and city layout but it in no way compares to this. Very very well done!! I can hardly wait to get my hands on this and check it out. But until there I am inspired to restart work on my own creation.

PS: glad to see that my road creations are still being used (I never did finish all that I had planned to make so sorry guys!) and that Andi06 has carried on and really developed the concept.

[Red_Rattler]

Picture: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/Screen_198-1.jpg Paul, with the picture in the link (the bottom one), have you got a close up please of the grass island in the middle of the road, without the rain?

I'm asking for a reason.

PS: Could I also ask that the picture be small please (say 800x600)

[paulzmay]

@ Red - I don't have one at the moment unless it's in this thread. I can take one for you when I next have the route loaded. I have a added another small island in the foreground, so I'll probably have to work around that.

Are you going to let us know the reason or are you enjoying being mysterious? :p

@mgreen48 - Good to see you back in the forums. I'm still using a lot of your stuff regularly (mostly roads). I think I may have used your under-construction skyscrapers a few times too.

What you see in this thread is actually three routes, which may one day grow into each other. I'm hoping to get the smallest one out in the next month or two. The largest is probably over a year away...

By the way, can I ask what your policy is on re-skins and re-use of textures? I'm working on some additional pavement (sidewalk) splines and corners similar to what Andi06 was working on, and it may be handy to use some of you textures, or re-skin some of your roads with my textures.

Paul

[Red_Rattler]

Are you going to let us know the reason or are you enjoying being mysterious?I was going to tell you the other day, but I forget, and I the site was down yesterday.

The reason, to me the grass you chose doesn't look real enough, it looks too flat site, more like a carpet.

[dazza1980]

Paul

Been watching this thread for a while now and am enjoying all the screenshots, your route is progressing nicely! I look forward to having a spin on it. I know it will probably be a while till you release it, so in the mean time i have been working on an improved version of my Edenbridge Tram route. The route is almost complete and it would plug a nice gap until Bridgehampton is complete. My biggest issue im trying to overcome is the track and catenary. I currently have in place andi06's Track Cat-56, which is a very nice track but the catenary is too high. Ive noticed your using wires of the correct height. I had a look at denisfrs track and cat, but im not too happy with the way it looks. Are you using any other track and cat, or are you using a seperate cat spline? Is there a lower height version of andi06's Track-Cat?
Keep up the goood work mate, it will be a real gem when its complete. Once ive ironed out the catenary ill post a few screenies.

Darren

[whistlehead]

I've got Edenbridge, and I really like it!

And I'm not too bothered about cat. heights myself, the AJS stuff is so good anyway and it doesn't really matter, so long as it's not TOO far off.

Chris:cool:

[paulzmay]

@Red_rattler:

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As far as I know this is the only grass reservation of this type available on the DLS. I'm planning to make one myself, but I haven't chosen a grass texture yet. Any suggestions?

@dazza1980 - The catenary used is a mixture, depending on application and how long ago the section in question was built. The only track with built in wire at this height is by denis_fr - the remainder of the overhead is hand placed. I've used a wire spline called 'line only' from a Russian catenary pack on the DLS lowered to suit for much of it, but this is being progressively stripped out and replaced with my own overhead set (as seen in the Bridgehampton South shots). The curved overhead poles are by michael-h. I have also used poles by Andi06 (a spline with wire between), RW1HH and motorman1066, as well as my own (which use Andi's pole model as an attachment).

I intend to publish my overhead wires in the next month or so.

Hopefully this helps...

Paul

[dazza1980]

Paul

Yes it does help, i was hoping for an easy solution, but i guess i will have to do it the hard way! At least it will look right once ive replaced the old track work and catenary.

Thanks

Darren

[paulzmay]

@Dazza - My overhead system will come with waygauges (like the AJS ones) that allow the contact wire to attach to speed up installation. Alignment on corners isn't always perfect, but it's usually close. Most of the pole & wire combinations in this thread are done as a single trackside object, so they are fairly easy to install as well. More complex and custom arrangements need a bit more care, but they aren't hard...

If you want to try them out I can send an early beta...

Paul

[dazza1980]

Paul

Would love to beta your items, i have a number of complex junctions so i think my route would be an ideal external test bed.
Most of the poles ive used are the ones you have mentioned before which are trackside objects (i like these, very easy to apply!) also have used the pole and wires by andi06 i believe.
Not so much me being lazy, but the reason i wanted to use attached objects is that in the town centre there are a number of splines making up the roadways. As you have probably come across, things can start to get very messy and frustrating when adding more splines. So for this reason i was trying to opt for the attached or track and cat approach.

Darren

[paulzmay]

OK - drop me a PM with your e-mail...

Paul

[Red_Rattler]

at p/zmay

dont feel to good at moment - come back to here later, maybe a few days

[paulzmay]

Red - Hope you feel better soon.

Daz - beta items sent...

Paul