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bearcat245
March 7th, 2007, 11:47 PM
How do i convert chains into KM - any ideas

Alan_Yeomans
March 7th, 2007, 11:52 PM
google says

http://www.unitconversion.org/length/kilometers-to-chains-conversion.html

works both ways. :)

DeRiCo
March 8th, 2007, 12:46 AM
Are you talking about railway chains?

If so they used 100 chains to the mile, not 80.

Dennis

WileeCoyote
March 8th, 2007, 05:35 AM
Chains? What do you mean by chains?

WileeCoyote:D

Bill69
March 8th, 2007, 06:13 AM
Hi all,

Chains? What do you mean by chains?

WileeCoyote:D
22 feet = 1 chain. To convert chains to Km divide chains by 49.71

Cheers,
Bill69

P.S. 1 imperial mile = 2240 feet.

teddytoot
March 8th, 2007, 06:18 AM
The chain is an obsolescent British measurement. 1 chain=22 yards hence 80 chains to 1 statute mile. It was literally a surveyor's chain consisting of 100 links (see here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_(length)) for more detail). This is why a cricket pitch is the length it is since they could quickly measure it out with a chain.

Bill69 1 Imperial Mile=5280feet=1760yards

Bill69
March 8th, 2007, 06:29 AM
Hi teddytoot,

Yes sorry I got my miles mixed up with Lbs per ton. And my feet mixed up with yards but the 49.71 chains to a Km. is right

Cheers,
Bill69

WileeCoyote
March 8th, 2007, 08:19 AM
Man and I thought the american measuring system was weird, good thing I use metric:p.


WileeCoyote:D

Accipiter777
March 8th, 2007, 08:31 AM
Hi all,


22 feet = 1 chain. To convert chains to Km divide chains by 49.71

Cheers,
Bill69

P.S. 1 imperial mile = 2240 feet.


5280 feet to the mile.

WileeCoyote
March 8th, 2007, 10:58 AM
5280 feet to the mile.

In America yes but in Britain it is 2240 feet to an imperial mile, that or I need to reread my very long ruler.

WileeCoyote:D

Tokkyu40
March 8th, 2007, 11:06 AM
America uses the same mile as the British. They use a wierd size gallon, but the lengths are the same. We also still use furlongs to measure horse tracks.
Imperial measurements keep the brain sharp. Metric doesn't exercise the mind.:D

:cool: Claude

laldfordo
March 8th, 2007, 12:50 PM
Britains railways still use chains to measure distances from a fixed starting point. One chain is very close to two squares on the TRS baseboard - very handy when modelling UK tracks.

If you want confusion, try bushels.

WileeCoyote
March 8th, 2007, 02:22 PM
Or better yet, cubits, ye olde biblical measurement, it's especially annoying when I am modifying a route and that persons cubit is longer than my cubit. It's a real pain sometimes...

WileeCoyote:D

BLACKWATCH
March 8th, 2007, 04:48 PM
In America yes but in Britain it is 2240 feet to an imperial mile, that or I need to reread my very long ruler.

WileeCoyote:D

In Britain 1 mile = 1760 yards, 1 yard = 3 feet, hence 1760 x 3 = 5280 feet to the mile. ;)

JCitron
March 8th, 2007, 05:21 PM
This site helps...

http://www.unitconversion.org/

John

RPearson
March 8th, 2007, 08:11 PM
In America yes but in Britain it is 2240 feet to an imperial mile, that or I need to reread my very long ruler.

WileeCoyote:D Sorry Wilee 2240 is lbs per ton. In US this is called a long ton and used primarily in the marine industries. The usual ton in the US is 2000 lbs per ton and is also refered to as a short ton.

Bob Pearson

barn700
March 8th, 2007, 09:33 PM
Measurements are always confusing, but if you remember the roots, it partly explains.

Remember in US when land was settled, they used to allocate 160 acres per person (family) and add a percentage for errors (going up and down hills)

So if you have a farm with 160 acres, it could be anwhere from 160 to 180 acres in reality)

All measured in chains and perches (which are really fish LOL)

WileeCoyote
March 9th, 2007, 06:08 AM
Egad, so far I have learned far more about non-metric measurements in this thread than in my measurements textbook (makes good kindling this stuff:D), this is even better than Wikipedia.

WileeCoyote:D

Accipiter777
March 9th, 2007, 11:12 AM
Man and I thought the american measuring system was weird, good thing I use metric:p.


WileeCoyote:D


You "thought" it was weird... it IS weird....I wish metric was the standard here!

barn700
March 9th, 2007, 11:35 AM
You should also look at the currency of the old country, plenty of different things in there from groats, to farthings, halfpennies, pence, threepence, sixpence, florins, guineas and of course most of the trading in USA was done in shillings (look in the old land grants or land sales)

ColPrice2002
March 9th, 2007, 12:30 PM
OK,

Here's my tuppence worth!

The old chain was 4 rods - the rod was the device used to control/guide the lead ox when ploighing a furlong - i.e. about 16 feet long.
It then became used as the width for ploughing, you'll find that the old medieval strip farming plots are about 1 rod wide...

The Imperial liquid system is also quite logical:-

1 gallon of water - 10 lbs weight
1 gallon contains 8 pints of 20 fluid ounces.

The US - (for some reason) decided that the US pint weighs 1 lb - so the US Gallon is 8 x 16 = 128 ounces.

Cheers,

Colin
(who can still add up in £.s.d!)

teddytoot
March 9th, 2007, 02:50 PM
WilleeCoyote

Even the Germans once had miles. I have a photo of a German milestone that I took outside a mining museum in, if I remember correctly, Goslar. Most European contries had similar pre-metric measurements but they were all different. That is why for example Swedish narrow gauge is 891mm as that was 3 Swedish feet.

I agree metric is far simpler. As a scientist I have used it all my life but I still have to use Imperial for some things since political interference stopped our total conversion to metric.

motorman1066
March 9th, 2007, 10:29 PM
"Chains, my baby's got me locked up it chains,
And they ain't the kind that you can see....."
OH BEAR What have you started....:D

My 1972 Paul Hamlyn instant metric reckoner defines:

80 chains = 1 MILE = 1.609344 kilometres

Therefore 1 chain = 0.0201168 kilometres 0r
1 chain = 20.1168 metres