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Moojgoo
January 15th, 2007, 12:25 PM
Anyone know where to get some SCRAP stuff? Any kind. SCRAP locos, rolling stock, scenery, ANYTHING!?!

johnwhelan
January 15th, 2007, 12:58 PM
Anyone know where to get some SCRAP stuff? Any kind. SCRAP locos, rolling stock, scenery, ANYTHING!?!

Basically you could always reskin. If you are a bit more precise that might help, time period, US, UK narrow guage etc.

Cheerio John.

BidMod
January 15th, 2007, 01:02 PM
There is a (UK) wagon for transporting scrap on the DLS, if that fits.

Moojgoo
January 15th, 2007, 01:09 PM
OK, now, how should I explain this...

1. I REALLY don't know how to reskin that well...
2. I mean SCRAP itself. Not stuff that holds SCRAP.

BidMod
January 15th, 2007, 01:14 PM
I assume you have tried typing "scrap" into the DLS?

Alien3 has some scrap cars, and cmburgess made some scrap (UK) locos.

For run down areas (scrappys aren't known for flowerbeds) placing some grass/weeds on the floor adds an extra effect - look for some of that as well :cool:.

Harry_James_Potter
January 15th, 2007, 01:49 PM
Anyone know where to get some SCRAP stuff? Any kind. SCRAP locos, rolling stock, scenery, ANYTHING!?!


DLS?

regards

Harry

knight42
January 15th, 2007, 01:58 PM
There are some scrap items on the UK Branchlines website - wagon bodies and even a diesel loco.

johnwhelan
January 15th, 2007, 03:42 PM
OK, now, how should I explain this...

1. I REALLY don't know how to reskin that well...
2. I mean SCRAP itself. Not stuff that holds SCRAP.

OK name a couple of items you'd like with kuids. Reskinning to rust isn't that difficult, and you never know some one might do you a reskin, but before doing it they would probably like a clearer idea of what your requirements are, rusty US cars or rusty european cars?

Cheerio John

Moojgoo
January 15th, 2007, 07:20 PM
There are some scrap items on the UK Branchlines website - wagon bodies and even a diesel loco.

UK Branchlines? Do you mean Magandy's site? If so, I already got all the SCRAP stuff.

GreatEastern
January 15th, 2007, 07:26 PM
Yes that's what he means. The whole tone of your posts is a bit offensive imho. Maybe try toning them down a little and being much more civil, you are asking for a favour after all, no matter how desperate you are.

Andy

Moojgoo
January 15th, 2007, 07:30 PM
OK, perhaps I should stop capitalizing scrap. I try to tone down.

Moojgoo
January 15th, 2007, 07:31 PM
OK name a couple of items you'd like with kuids. Reskinning to rust isn't that difficult, and you never know some one might do you a reskin, but before doing it they would probably like a clearer idea of what your requirements are, rusty US cars or rusty european cars?

Cheerio John

Anything. Nothing specific.

Saieditor
January 16th, 2007, 01:53 AM
Yes, I began making my own scrap. Bits and pieces of this, that and the other, classifying as lineside structure or sign, and as John Wheelan said earlier, I applied rust to some reskins. It was easy to do once I found the dual texture brushes in Adobe Photoshop 7.

Great fun, I made my own workshops. Took bogies off bodies, and dumped them all over the place, got other wagons, repainted them to show rust/wear/tear, placed them on sunken invisible track to show them off-track, sinking into the grass...

tommylommykins
January 16th, 2007, 02:24 AM
Try these KUIDs:

59737:10004:1
142268:901:1
142268:900:1
118781:28002
118781:28003142268:902:1

Serkanner
January 16th, 2007, 05:13 AM
Thanks Tommy ... I didn't have those yet.

WileeCoyote
January 16th, 2007, 06:38 AM
Maybe you could just weld some rusty bits of metal to your screen:D !

WileeCoyote

johnwhelan
January 16th, 2007, 09:20 AM
Yes, I began making my own scrap. Bits and pieces of this, that and the other, classifying as lineside structure or sign, and as John Wheelan said earlier, I applied rust to some reskins. It was easy to do once I found the dual texture brushes in Adobe Photoshop 7.

Great fun, I made my own workshops. Took bogies off bodies, and dumped them all over the place, got other wagons, repainted them to show rust/wear/tear, placed them on sunken invisible track to show them off-track, sinking into the grass...

Have you dumped any of it on the DLS?

Cheerio John

kcdowdy
January 16th, 2007, 11:15 AM
Yes, I began making my own scrap. Bits and pieces of this, that and the other, classifying as lineside structure or sign, and as John Wheelan said earlier, I applied rust to some reskins. It was easy to do once I found the dual texture brushes in Adobe Photoshop 7.

Great fun, I made my own workshops. Took bogies off bodies, and dumped them all over the place, got other wagons, repainted them to show rust/wear/tear, placed them on sunken invisible track to show them off-track, sinking into the grass...
I'm making a destroyed route :( thanks tommy i could A: give it out now it's 20% done and you guys could finsh it off your way. Or i could do it 100% and then do it might take a year not sure thanks!!

Moojgoo
January 16th, 2007, 08:56 PM
Try these KUIDs:

59737:10004:1
142268:901:1
142268:900:1
118781:28002
118781:28003142268:902:1

I have all the top 4, the last is incorrect (not real). Man, that's one long KUID.

tommylommykins
January 17th, 2007, 02:17 AM
Sorry, the last 2 are

142268:902:1 and 118781:28003

Moojgoo
January 17th, 2007, 05:54 PM
Have both.

TristenEugene
January 19th, 2007, 06:07 AM
In the various sub menues,, -old track-, -bogey wheel-, -steel pipes-, -timber stack-, -trackwood-, -bucket on bench-, -wooden crates-, -clutter-, -mud logs-, -mud dozer-, -scrap ship-, (This is a sunk and broken rusty tanker ship),

There are more wheels, axles and beat up rolling stock. I did not write the names down. sorry.

To place around scrap, this yellow grass works good -grass gelb-.

Moojgoo
January 20th, 2007, 10:56 AM
Hmm, well it might take me awhile to find them. Sorry I was gone for 2 days for no reason to see this, everyone.

Maddy25
January 20th, 2007, 04:34 PM
I have a stack of crushed cars on the DLS. I'm not sure if that fits in with your theme or not, but it's <kuid2:124017:20069:1> (http://www.auran.com/TRS2004/DLS_packcontents.php?AssetPackID=9474).

- Madeline :)

Moojgoo
January 20th, 2007, 06:37 PM
Well, kinda dosn't go with my theme, it's mostly scrapped railroad (railway) items I'm looking for.

Saieditor
January 21st, 2007, 05:13 AM
Have you dumped any of it on the DLS?

Cheerio John

Not yet

I had troubles with TRS2004 refusing to load (see the dual installation thread in TRS2004)

What I did do was painted a passenger vehicle for Christmas, and I deselected anti-aliasing in Photoshop 7, dropped the tolerance down to 15 and came up with a real humdinger of a peeling paint job.

Did the same with a repaint of an NYC passenger car and put some real rust textures on it. Exploring all the different paintbrushes in Photoshop can turn into quite a creative adventure. For example, I found the butterfly brush with dynamic scattering was quite pretty. (This is entirely off topic for scrap, but just an idea of what could be achieved. )

http://www.saieditor.com/img/new-year-tanker2.jpg

Saieditor
January 23rd, 2007, 08:33 AM
I did a bit of a screenshot of my workshops to illustrate the scrap ideas I have.

First image has a scenery tramcar (Brisbane) kuid2:108959:27365:2 dumped on the ground with a chook house out the front. Behind it is a QR QLX graffiti 1 kuid2:59737:6000:1, a scenery object just dumped on the ground.

http://www.saieditor.com/5/scrap/scrap1.jpg

The next image is simply the SS Foundry car on invisible track, sunk 2 metres, I think. Supposed to be sunk in the mud.

http://www.saieditor.com/5/scrap/scrap2.jpg

Here is an asset I changed. All I did was removed the bogies, and changed the category class to "BR". Its the NSWGR SWF water gin.

http://www.saieditor.com/5/scrap/scrap3.jpg

The auto couplers are still attached so I lowered it until the couplers were not visible.

Here's a pile of scrap steel, and in the background is that Brisbane Scenery tram asset, on "MB_overgrown_track_bed" kuid:35412:38074. In the background is another QR wagon, QR QLX graffiti 1 NG, kuid2:59737:6003:2

http://www.saieditor.com/5/scrap/scrap4.jpg

This one is just a pile of sleepers (sleeper_pile, built in) and in the background is the Lokschuppen kuid:164988:399895 which I am using as a Paint Shop.

http://www.saieditor.com/5/scrap/scrap5.jpg

Now this locomotive is the DL500 Double from Paintshop. I saved it with no colour, so it came out grey, pre-weathered on the sides. What I did was opened the main.bmp file in Photoshop7, selected the paint bucket, (color Pink) set the tolerance to 3, deselect anti-alias, and deselect contiguous. Apply paint bucket once, and presto, a locomotive about to get the sanding and undercoat job finished before paint layers. My memory is poor. I think I first applied white, then pink. I have my reasons for using pink - as I want to use this locomotive for another narrative; you may choose your own colours.

http://www.saieditor.com/5/scrap/scrap6.jpg

This carriage is BS Candy, a paintshed job from the DLS. 60318:10030
What I did was opened the TGA file in Photoshop, selected assorted brushes, dropped the flow down to about 60%. I then used a dual colour brush and made three sweeps down the side of the car using different colours to get a different paint damage, peel, and rust effect. Play around with it, the world is your imagination.

http://www.saieditor.com/5/scrap/scrap7.jpg

This car is a reskinned NYC vehicle, nyc_lounge_gulf ... I don't have the kuid because I applied my own kuid when I manually put it into /custom/trains/

What I did to this car was first apply undercoat gray to all the sides.

Then I got some texture brushes in Photoshop and applied dual texture to simulate bad rust in the body.

http://www.saieditor.com/5/scrap/scrap8.jpg

I was just playing around here, nothing special, simply recalling the rust I used to see in the EMU's I used to catch to work in the 1980's.

This is just another view of the same vehicle showing where I applied rust

http://www.saieditor.com/5/scrap/scrap9.jpg

Have fun, now. :D

Moojgoo
January 23rd, 2007, 09:00 PM
That's perfect for my route. It's called "Mixed-Region", previously called "Multiple-Gauge (Crazed Yards)". I've stopped trying to make it's main line electric. The reason for it's naming is it has content from several regions.

My route currenty features three yards, one of which is a scrap yard. I kinda tried to make it like the Island of Sodor scrap yard(s). The main "workers" there are Iron 'Arry & Bert. It's imitation of the yard means there's a "pit", where you can dump scrap cars or engines, although one of the Trainz bugs cause them to "jump" back out.

GaryReggae
January 24th, 2007, 03:28 AM
I like scrapyards as well, here are a couple of pics of mine:

http://img307.imageshack.us/img307/2315/works5vb2.jpg

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/500/121greendirty3gv.jpg

All of the objects I got off the DLS except for the filthy old bubblecars and EPB coaches which I basically opened up the texture files in Photoshop and added layers of dirt and graffiti and the stripped out NSE coach which I made (I will upload it to the DLS when I get round to it). The ground texture is very good, I think it was called 'scrap metal' or something?
You can raise up the ground and cover it with that to make it look like heaps of scrap.

Moojgoo
January 24th, 2007, 06:04 PM
I have that "scrap metal" texture. I didn't entirely use it for my scrap yard, it's main texture is supposed to look like concrete. I'll post some screenshots of it later. It has large "walls" around it, simply made of terrain. There is no way you can see it from the outside in Driver. It's seperated from most of the route by a tunnel.
Oh, speaking of tunnels, I heard there was a addon tool you could use to "bore" through the ground in another thread. Is there such a tool?

Moojgoo
January 24th, 2007, 06:10 PM
Huh, well got the spline scrap 37 from Magandy (http://www.magandy.net). What's that broken-up diesel called? (And KUID?) Not the Class 50, but the other diesel in the 1st pic.

GaryReggae
January 25th, 2007, 07:17 AM
Huh, well got the spline scrap 37 from Magandy (http://www.magandy.net). What's that broken-up diesel called? (And KUID?) Not the Class 50, but the other diesel in the 1st pic.

It's called 'Derelict Loco' by AD602000, KUID 63971:26019

Enjoy!

miraoister
January 10th, 2008, 11:18 AM
Yes, I began making my own scrap. Bits and pieces of this, that and the other, classifying as lineside structure or sign, and as John Wheelan said earlier, I applied rust to some reskins. It was easy to do once I found the dual texture brushes in Adobe Photoshop 7.

Great fun, I made my own workshops. Took bogies off bodies, and dumped them all over the place, got other wagons, repainted them to show rust/wear/tear, placed them on sunken invisible track to show them off-track, sinking into the grass...


if you are looking for images to use that might have graffiti covered scrap trains search on websites like www.graffiti.org (http://www.graffiti.org) digital jungle and eyegasm are also really good site, graffiti artists like to take really big photos of their graffits, and they refer to scrap trains as "dead trains"

lornyk5
January 10th, 2008, 11:33 AM
Whecsailor has some small scrap steamers, I put them behind roundhouses with the odd rusty bogie and weeds, looks pretty cool. If you don't already have them, they are worth a look!

Lorin:wave:

Moojgoo
January 11th, 2008, 04:28 PM
Damn, this thread is old, about a year old! I don't really need any of this now, as my interest in Trainz has decreased over the last year.