Irritating Noises

[davesnow]

Is there any way to eliminate the Crashing, Banging, Smashing and crappy loco (not MY loco) noises when I first go into driver? It's VERY irritating. I'm running TRS2006.

[Captain_Collins]

Easy method: turn off your speakers whilst trainz is loading, and then turn them back on when it has loaded.

[Ron_Smith]

I had a good chuckle at both answer and comment above from Captain - good one - started my day off nicel:hehe:y.

[davesnow]

You guys don't quite understand. These noises CONTINUE for a long time, maybe 20 minutes, AFTER I'm in driver...

[martinvk]

You don't mention what kind of loco it is but have you considered that this might be an attempt to inject some realism via background noise? Trains, especially some of the early steam engines were not known for their silent running. As well, the loose coupling with Janney couplers results in all sorts of noise as the train starts to move as each car gets added to the moving section.

[Euphod]

I know what noises you're talking about Dave, and they can be startling to hear as the route loads. I can't imagine having to endure them for 20 minutes! (Does it take 20 minutes for your route to load, or do the noises just continue?)

You would think there would be a collection of wav files in the 2006 folder, but it may be hard wired into the code. I'm not at my Trainz PC right now, so I can't take a look until tomorrow, sorry.:)

[davesnow]

It takes about 30 SECONDS for my route to load. As soon as my scenery and loco appears (A SD40-2 to be exact) the noises begin. But in ALL my routes, whether it be steam, diesel, or electric, I still get these same crashing, banging, etc. noises for 15-20 minutes. They finally fade after a while, but even after 2-3 hours or running a route, occasionally I will hear these noises.

(Does AURAN ever read these forums???)

[Captain_Collins]

I had a good chuckle at both answer and comment above from Captain - good one - started my day off nicel:hehe:y.
Glad to be of assistance.

It takes about 30 SECONDS for my route to load. As soon as my scenery and loco appears (A SD40-2 to be exact) the noises begin. But in ALL my routes, whether it be steam, diesel, or electric, I still get these same crashing, banging, etc. noises for 15-20 minutes. They finally fade after a while, but even after 2-3 hours or running a route, occasionally I will hear these noises.

(Does AURAN ever read these forums???)
What kind of sound hardware do you have in your computer?

[martinvk]

Has it been established exactly what these noises are?

Does every route produce the same sequence of noise as it starts for the same length of time?

What about a blank baseboard with one track and one engine?

[Euphod]

Sorry Dave, I checked out the folder, and there are no wavz, the sound must be hard wired.:(

[davesnow]

Sorry Dave, I checked out the folder, and there are no wavz, the sound must be hard wired.:(

That's what I figured. Just thought there might be a way to "de-fuse" the sounds. I'm surprised no one else has these sounds. They've been with me since day ONE when I first bought TRAINZ 2006.

[Irving]

You guys don't quite understand. These noises CONTINUE for a long time, maybe 20 minutes, AFTER I'm in driver...
Dave: I had a similar experiance in the past. I beleve it was due to my cpu or video card not being able to handle the loading or paging of a large routes, maybe because of overheating or simply running low on paging space on the causing excessive memory swaping. I experimented with using the MS Windows Task Manager (CTRL+ALT+DELETE in Windows XP) while running Trainz and noticed the virtual memory paging faults (i.e. swapping) was very large.

Later I had my PC tuned and unscheduled many un-needed start up programs, which may get into a system by downloading new software. My PC was running about 60 processes, now cut back to 35 after start up. My trainz performance and start up time improved satisfactorially. A few months later my console died and I have replaced it and again my PC 's performance has improved, so that may have contributed to the prroplema as well.

I am using a 3.2 Ghz pentium 4 cpu and a 256Mb NVIDA 6800 Video card. Even so, the 3D rendition some time gets distored when running a large route.

Hope this is of value to you, 1st step get rid of unneeded background processes. ;)

[davesnow]

^ Actually, I believe these "noises" are Sound Effects in the game itself. I hear them on both my PC's, whenever I load up a session, and in ANY session I am running. They sound like the crashing and banging when boxcars or other RR cars slam together or bang when they are being pushed, or the common noises they make as they are being pulled down the track. My problem is, they are just unnecessary and irritating. I assume some game programmer thought it would be "cool" to insert these common railroad noises to make running the game more "realistic." To me, they are just an irritation. Even when my loco is stopped at a light or in a yard, it seems foolish to hear the banging and slamming of boxcars (or whatever) when the train is sitting still.

Oh well. The game is still the most fantastic train simulator I have ever seen. It's a game I love and play way too much!!:hehe:

[martinvk]

Well it is a train simulator after all. It's supposed to make train noises.

Just like when you go underwater and you hear water noises. Someone went to a lot of trouble to get those sound effects into Trainz. Like the special rumble when going through a turnout, the squeal when going round a sharp curve, etc.

I suppose if you really wanted to have a silent game you could just turn off your speakers but then you would lose that railroad ambiance.

[davesnow]

Well it is a train simulator after all. It's supposed to make train noises.

Just like when you go underwater and you hear water noises. Someone went to a lot of trouble to get those sound effects into Trainz. Like the special rumble when going through a turnout, the squeal when going round a sharp curve, etc.

I suppose if you really wanted to have a silent game you could just turn off your speakers but then you would lose that railroad ambiance.

Yes, I know there are some sound effects that are vital to the game. "the special rumble when going through a turnout, the squeal when going round a sharp curve, etc." like you say. But these CRASHING/BANGING sound effects aren't necessary when the train is stopped.

Does anyone else hear these sounds???

[martinvk]

Just ran a new test on a route that is in development and the only banging / crashing type sounds I can provoke are when starting or stopping when the slack is taken out or being put in the couplers. The rest of the time it is just ordinary engine and track noises when moving and quiet steam engine noises when waiting

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[S301]

@Martin
I believe he's talking about the sounds that are part of the loading screens, except they aren't turning off.
@davesnow
I really can't see a way to reproduce this problem. The only thing I can suggest is to give us the specs of your computer, there may be something in there that could give us a hint. Other than this, I can't really suggest anything.

Actually, a thought. Are you running in full screen more? And have you minimised trainz at any stage before starting the route/session? I have had the sound effect from loading screens stuff up, and continue playing, when I've viewed another program while a loading screen in running.

Zec

[meatloaf747]

There clearly must be a problem with your sound card, or on-board sound, or sound drivers. Do you have a separate sound card or is the sound chipset built into your motherboard. Try downloading the latest drivers for your sound card or your ON-BOARD sound.
If you have a separate PCI sound card installed (plus on-board sound), make sure your "on-board" sound is turned "off" in CMOS...

I regularly run TRS2006 and while it is loading I get these sounds. As soon as it has finishes loading these sounds "stop", and don't restart ever while the game is running. Hope this helps.
Cheers, Mac...

[airtime]

When I was using trainz 2006, I would notice on going sounds in the background of brakes hissing and coaches banging together, eventhough what I was viewing on screen was an empty country station, with not a train in sight.

This was an ongoing problem in Trainz 2006, thankfully they have fixed this problem in Trainz 2009, but we now have a new issue of lighting problems, especially at 18:30 in the evening and the good weather fog is set to maximum and you have any train running with headlights, you end up with silver land, this also happens when you go through tunnels at any time through the day. I've reported this problem a number of times on the forums, in the hope that someone from Auran will read this post.:o

My advice is, if your computer can take it and you have the funds, buy and install trainz 2009 into your computer and your sound problems will vanish, if your computer can't take Trainz 2009, then try Trainz 2004 which I found personally as the best trainz ever made.

hope this helps

Joe Airtime

[007007]

Easy. Crank the data.ja file and replace with sound of choice. :p

[davesnow]

Easy. Crank the data.ja file and replace with sound of choice. :p

^Not understand......:confused:

[Euphod]

^Not understand......:confused:

He's suggesting you alter the .ja file to remove the sounds that are bothering you, but to do so would require an un-ethical move on your part.

[davesnow]

^ I can't even open that file. [And I have learned to be VERRRRRY careful with Trainz files, since the game is so unstable. I've lost entire routes before, just from altering a file --- routes that have taken me weeks and weeks, nay MONTHS to complete. Don't get me wrong. This is the best Train Sim out there, but it's very easy to lose a lot of work in one instant.]

I guess there's no solution to my problem. Like Airtime said, "When I was using trainz 2006, I would notice on going sounds in the background of brakes hissing and coaches banging together, eventhough what I was viewing on screen was an empty country station, with not a train in sight." That is what I'm experiencing. Even an hour into the game, and with no trains around for miles, I still hear these sounds. And, like I said, it's irritating.

Oh well, I guess it's time to end this thread...............:(

[cascaderailroad]

By any chance do you live near a real RR track ?

I know how you feel...the CSX runs 500 yards away from my GF house, and sometimes gives VERY realistic RR/Trainz sound efects.

[davesnow]

By any chance do you live near a real RR track ?

I know how you feel...the CSX runs 500 yards away from my GF house, and sometimes gives VERY realistic RR/Trainz sound efects.

LOL! Well, BNSF and UP both run on tracks about a mile from my home (2 diamonds here in my town!), but it isn't THESE trains I'm hearing!

[butter]

Haha I have the same problem with Tc i left it one while i slept i kept waking to what sounded like a drummer with a bad scene of beat, clacking the sticks

[themnax]

Yes, I know there are some sound effects that are vital to the game. "the special rumble when going through a turnout, the squeal when going round a sharp curve, etc." like you say. But these CRASHING/BANGING sound effects aren't necessary when the train is stopped.

Does anyone else hear these sounds???

yes i hear them, and often run with the sound turned off for that very reason. and yes, me too, not the logical sounds that come from/are made by a train in motions, but a constant background of a kind of random hodge podge of them, the is, so to speak, the "background music" that begins when trainz is first opened, and makes no sense once a layout is running and the actual sounds of the train you're running is there to replace them, nor do they make sense in surveyor mode, where i seem to recall they persist as well (i may be mistaken about the latter, i'll have to check).

ambient sounds i place deliberately in a route, those i expect to be there in surveyor of course, although the first time i heard a fog horn go off from a lighthouse i had placed, it took me forever to figure out that's what THAT was.

but no, this problem, has nothing to do with that, or anything, its just the opening hodge podge of "trainlike" sounds continuing, not those sensibly pertinent to anything actually going on.

believe me, i've grown up in, on and around trains and railroading and know what sounds to expect when and where and when and where not to.

[davesnow]

------nor do they make sense in surveyor mode, where i seem to recall they persist as well (i may be mistaken about the latter, i'll have to check).

Yes, there ARE sounds in Surveyor mode, but all I hear in Surveyor are an occasional scraping sound or a hissing noise. Don't know what this is supposed to represent. But it is a bit annoying as well.

[pisaacs]

The sound I find most annoying is the click clack as the train moves down the track in Trainz2009, because the sound is always exactly the same. There's no natural variation in the sound as there should be, so it becomes really tiresome.

[Euphod]

Dave, do you have this in your TrainzOptions file:

-intro=disable

If not, please try it.

[davesnow]

Dave, do you have this in your TrainzOptions file:

-intro=disable

If not, please try it.

Tried this... only seemed to make the opening noises LOUDER! Lol! :D

[Euphod]

Yeah, that's what I was going for! I figured "why not mess with him a little?":hehe:

Okay, actually, I was trying to help, sorry it didn't work out.:(

[007007]

He's suggesting you alter the .ja file to remove the sounds that are bothering you, but to do so would require an un-ethical move on your part.

What is so un-ethical about wanting to customize a game that you own to suit your own needs? :confused:

[Euphod]

What is so un-ethical about wanting to customize a game that you own to suit your own needs? :confused:

Maybe unethical is the wrong word. I imagine the ja files are not intended to be cracked; however a person deals with that issue is up to their own morality, I suppose.

[007007]

I feel as if it is what you do with the files after you crack them is what will decide whats moral. If I shared it with people or told them how to do it I would agree but since it is for my personal use ONLY I don't feel as if is that bad...

[lsigrandson]

davesnow;

I'm a noob to this board, but I've been playing Trainz2006 for a couple of years. I've noticed the sound myself when going into Driver mode, but it lasts for a couple of seconds then stops. It does not matter if I go into one of my layouts or one that came with the game. It's an intermittent problem and does not happen all the time. I can't imagine putting up with it for 30 minutes, the sound quality is bad enough.

An unrelated noise problem that I've noticed is that on certain locomotives I can hear the bell (at a lesser volume) when I'm 5 to 10 boards away from it.

Mike

[cascaderailroad]

There is always a volume selector on your PC, turn it down, or almost off. Listen to a RR sound effects CD, or buy a MRC SoundStation/SyncroSound effects simulator, to make your own sound effects...it never really bothered me that much, the anbient sounds in Trainz.:p

[cascaderailroad]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzPXyzvWIWI Pennsy Noise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEKEfkL00rs Track Layer
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhYXEvNVkcA Startup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vfKhyRcYWU Noisy Bit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1A_yFvQdhQ Whoops Duhh0h

[nicky9499]

Yes, there ARE sounds in Surveyor mode, but all I hear in Surveyor are an occasional scraping sound or a hissing noise. Don't know what this is supposed to represent. But it is a bit annoying as well.

I'm making a wild guess here, but do you happen to have any of Frank's locomotives in the vicinity? They have these small air hissing sounds in both driver and surveyor.

Cheerio,
Nicholas.

[mikeaust]

The hissing noises is the air being pumped through the system and exhausting when brakes are applied, just like a real train does!!!!
Cheers,
Mike