Please help new player!!!

[Greg800]

Hello,

I am using Trainz Driver Edition I believe its 06 version. I can't figure out how to load the cars or issue orders. I have held control and right clicked an order but the train just sits there. I have tried a drive to command and the only one that is available is some airport? How do i play the game and load unload cars if the commands don't work? I am also getting this error messsage every once in a while like a stack dump or something?? Please help me!!

[palmer]

wait for a few mins it should load in 2 mins;)
will
have a nice day

[railroy19]

Hi Greg
Have you assigned the engine a driver first?
If not the engine will not even move if it has no driver.
Don't give up yet we can all help you out and will do so until you get hooked on trainz like the rest of us.:)

Bob

[john259]

I'm not familiar with Trainz Driver Edition but assuming it's similar to TRS2006, on which it is based:

You can drive a train yourself, or you can set up one or more commands in sequence to make the train perform operations by itself.

When setting up commands, left-click and don't hold down SHIFT or CTRL - as far as I know (experts correct me please if I'm wrong).

Getting the commands right can be tricky sometimes, especially when you want a train to go by a particular route and there is a choice. Also, AI (artificial intelligence) trains can sometimes drive past red signals and then carry on as if nothing had happened.

If you're driving yourself, in some industries you need to stop for the wagons to be loaded or unloaded, while in other industries you have to keep moving but very slowly. Industries with more than one input and output have separate sections of track for each.

Industries will only load or unload appropriate types of wagons, the wagons must have the green IND tick in their icons. In addition, industries will only load or unload when it makes logical sense to. For example they will only load when they have some product available and the wagons aren't already full. The will only unload when the wagons have some product available and the industry input isn't full.

There are two driving modes, DCC which is simplest and CAB which is most realistic. In DCC press the > key to go faster forwards, < to slow down and go into reverse, and / to stop.

You can change the junctions by clicking on them. The red and green arrows indicate their directions.

Sorry if you already knew all that.

Is this a general problem, or does it only happen on one route / and maybe one specific Driver session for that route? If so, tell us which and if relevant where you were and what was happening when it failed (unless it failed completely no matter what you tried right from the start.

HTH, John

[palmer]

restart probably
restart:)
cheerio

[palmer]

i somtoms get pass cars that do not get the tick but they still hold passengers. How amezing is that.

[john259]

As well as Auran's IND industry system, there's also at least one alternative system called LARS. Maybe that explains it.

John

[Greg800]

Well it sounds like that is the game i have the one John is talking about. I am assuming i have a driver assigned to the train as there is a picture of him? I do shift right click and get the command menu. As far as loading unloading i am still confused, I do see the green tick but what do i do to load or unload the cars then? I line them up perfectly yet they won't get loaded? I try to issue the load command it tells me to issue a drive to command first?

[baz66]

Greg
I think you need to read some tutorials. This is hard. Myself, I always lose interest when reading them with the result it just doesn,t sink in.(Thick skulled us murphys) Also, in most driver scenarios there are tutorial on driving and loading products. Isuggest you make a test grid and set up the multiple ind and learn from there. Lots to learn.Kiss your life goodbye
baz

[john259]

I suggest you make a test grid and set up the multiple ind
Bear in mind he's got Trainz Driver so AFAIK he won't have Surveyor will he? All good advice otherwise though.

John

[Greg800]

I read it but still can't figure out how to load the cars. One example is the logging one. I back the skeletons up to the logger and go through it like it says. I line it up and it still won't load them. or another is the one where i have to load the semi trailers on the flatbeds. The forklift truck just sits there. How do i load these cars!!!!!

[rweber95]

Since you still seem to have problems, it would help if you post the names of the route and session that you're trying to run.

Bob

[carnsrb]

I agree, know the specific problem will help. You have to match the car with the industry but the cars have to be set to accept the commodity where you are. You also have to be sure the industry is set up to actually do something. Some things look very nice but when you click on them you realize they are just part of the scenery, not a functioning industry. With established sessions all this is typically taken care of but if you're running yourself on a route and making up your own trains then you've got more to consider.

Bob

[JRT]

http://www.merscomsupport.com/images/TrainzDriver_150.gif

Trainz Driver Edition is a Demo for TRS2006 with only driver and scenarios, sold at Target.

Cheers,
JRT

[john259]

At the forestry, you should see some logs stacked up on the ground waiting to be loaded. If there aren't any there then you may have to wait while they are cut down. If none are being cut down then there's a problem.

Make sure your train has got IND log wagons.

Stop the log wagons alongside the logs on the ground, and they should be loaded onto the wagons. If you have several wagons in your train you'll need to stop several times and load a few each stop.

Keep trying. This definitely works very reliably in TRS2006 but Trainz Driver might be a little different.

John

[Greg800]

Ok Here is the scenario name

Kalispell Local 1

This is what the sesson says: Drive to conkelley for loading some cars with alum for cfac alum plant.

1. Reverse loco and drive to conkelley

2. After 2 miles come to junction conkelleyindustry, enter the siding, couple to the empty consist waiting there.

3. Back up to the main track. stop when the consist clears the junction. You will get new instructions for cfac yard now.


Ok So i follow step 1, and step 2. I pull out back onto the main track pulling all of the cars that were sitting there there are several flat beds and three box cars. Once on the main track i stop well past the junction but it won't let me switch the junction no matter how far away i am from it. It says something about they are dispatch controlled. So my question is how the hell do i get that junction turned? And how do i know if this is the demo version or not? I bought it a while ago but don't remember where? How do i get the full version is that is the case. I am not into building and all that i just like ot drive and transfer cars in the rail yards.

[Euphod]

How long have you waited? You may be waiting for another consist to come by or something...

[Greg800]

Doesn't say anything about waiting? and what is a consist does that mean all the cars? or just the flat beds, box cars? another engine?

[Euphod]

A consist, in North American railway terminology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_terminology), is used as a noun to describe the group of rail vehicles which make up a train (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Train).

I haven't played that particular session, so I'm just guessing. Sometimes the author of the session makes you wait a minute or so until another train passes.

[Sourdough]

You say that once you hook up to the cars you pull back onto the main track....are you pulling forward onto the main track or backing out onto the main track? Once you clear the junction, you're suppose to get instructions for the next step. If you don't, then you've done something wrong. If you're pulling forward onto the main line, try backing out of the siding onto the main line.....if the siding doesn't connect to the main line on both ends, then I'm not sure why it's not working for you....if you get a dispatch only message, then the junctions are suppose to switch automatically..

[Greg800]

How do i know if i am pulling out backwards or going forwards? There is no turn table i just go reverse from where it starts to the side and hook up?

[Sourdough]

Well, it depends if you have it in reverse or forward....you were suppose to be going in reverse on your way to conkelly. I am assuming you entered the siding in reverse. I am not sure if the siding connects to the main track at both ends or not. If it does, then keep going in reverse until your train is back on the main track again....see if that works.

[Greg800]

The siding is a dead end with a bumper at the end. And yes i am going in reverse. But i have to go forward to get on the main track to clear the junction? Unless clearing the junction means sit on the siding?

[Sourdough]

OK....that's what I was wondering. According to instructions you posted, you are suppose to pull back onto the main track so that the last car is past the junction and stop....then you are suppose to get further instructions. Did you get instructions? I would assume that you would now be going forward to the next destination so I wouldn't think you need to switch the junction...

[john259]

Greg,

Kalispell Local 1
That sounds like it's the Marias Pass or Montana Rail Link layout, yes? (Kalispell is in northwestern Montana just west of Glacier National Park, excellent town, spectacularly beautiful country, probably the westernmost Hardee's :) , sorry if you knew all that)

Unfortunately that session isn't in my UK version of TRS2006 so I can't check it. (Other guyz, is it in the US edition, or TRS2007 perhaps?)

stop when the consist clears the junction
Your train needs to stop far enough away from the junction to allow the junction to change direction, presumably so you can then go in the opposite direction down the other track. Allow maybe two or three loco lengths from the junction but it can vary. You almost certainly need to come to a complete stop, not a crawl. If it's on a gradient then you might need to apply some power in the opposite direction or apply the brakes and this will vary between DCC mode and CAB mode. DCC is simpler, CAB is more realistic. (Applying opposite power to keep stationary is a total no-no with real locos with electric-powered wheels as it will burn out the electric motors but ok in Trainz)

For a glossary of terms relating to real railways, Trainz and computers, try this (http://www.johncletheroe.org/trainz/glossary/index.htm).

And how do i know if this is the demo version or not? I bought it a while ago but don't remember where? How do i get the full version is that is the case. I am not into building and all that i just like ot drive and transfer cars in the rail yards.
It is a demo. There are various full versions and their relative merits are hotly debated here. I'm going to go out on a limb and advise TRS2004 (should be budget software now) or not quite so good TRS2006 (also budget), then register with us (Razorback Railway) to give you access to a wide range of activities in which you do the driving. OK shameless self promotion over, now the other guyz can say what they'd advise :)

This level of confusion is totally normal when starting out with Trainz. Things will become clearer and much more enjoyable as you spend more time with the program.

HTH, John

[Greg800]

Ok so after some track switching i managed to get the the plant but still can't get any instructions. and i believe i have trainz driver north american edition i believe its 06??

[Greg800]

So now if i want to buy the 09 version is that mainly for building? I am looking for just a driver/railyard,car switch game. Is there another one i should look at?

[john259]

TS2009 isn't ready yet, it's still being developed.

TRS2004 and TRS2006 would suit you better I think. They are fully developed, they have a very wide range of high quality material available, and they are (probably) available as budget software (they are five pounds each in British shops). With either you can download additional layouts, buildings, rolling stock and activities, and you can also create your own layouts. You don't need both versions, only one or the other. Personally I prefer TRS2004 because it has what I consider to be a far simpler and more reliable system for managing items but there are plenty of people who prefer TRS2006. It's a 50/50 value call.

I still don't know why that session you're struggling with isn't behaving itself. How are you getting on with the other sessions?

John