New Route - BNSF Clovis Sub West

[Dermmy]

Do you fancy driving a hot 8000 foot intermodal 'Z' Train headed by a trio of BNSF SD70ACEs with a pair of SD40-2s shoving on the rear over an undulating route at line speeds up to 70 mph? Or would you rather leave the driving to the Trainz AI and concentrate on keeping trains running as seven different Portals produce and consume over 100 trains in a 24-hour period? Or perhaps would prefer to amble out of Belen yard in an old GP60 at the head of a couple dozen assorted freight cars and spend a few hours switching the Madrone industrial spurs?

Whatever your Trainz preferences this one is for you....

This release features the western end of the Clovis Sub. From the division point yard at Belen NM the line stretches eastwards covering over 60 miles of modern high-speed double-track main line. Leaving Belen the line crosses the Rio Grande River and passes the industrial area of Madrone before beginning a relentless climb to the single-track bottleneck through Abo canyon and on up to the summit of the line at Mountainair then down hill to a point just east of the tiny hamlet of Willard NM. Future releases will continue the line Eastwards to the Union Pacific junction at Vaughn, the famous Fort Sumpter Bridge and eventually on to Clovis.

The route was built in TRS04 and installs and runs in TRS06SP1. It is untested in later versions of Trainz. The route is 'lo poly' for most of the way, but the area around Belen is more taxing. Suggestions for optimizing frame rates are included in the notes on the pages linked below.
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Links to download the route and all non-DLS content can be found on this page (http://checkrail.com/clovisroute.htm).

For anyone unfamiliar with the route, screenshots can be found here (http://checkrail.com/clovis_sub.htm).
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SESSION: Belen Dispatcher

Details of an introductory session can be found on this page (http://checkrail.com/session_1.htm). The page includes detailed notes and suggestions for an open-ended session which can run for hours.

Please note that the session requires a reasonably fast machine to run.

Content for the session may be a problem. There are links for non-DLS content at the foot of the Session release page (link above), but there may be other content either missing or possibly not available. Please post in this thread and I will endeavour to find anything missing. Should anything prove completely unattainable I will re-do the thing as required....

Please note that the Session is built in TRS06SP1 and will not install in TRS04. The reasons for this are explained in the pages linked to above.
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SUPPORT

For support relating to route or session issues and session content, please post in this thread.

For support relating to rolling stock dependencies for the session, a quicker response may come from posts in the forums of the Trainz group responsible for that content...
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THANKS...

Thanks to the Beta team: Sp_or_bust, 22alpha, Captkilljoy, Ethandude, Nikos1, Cozmo, Sureshot, Zintac and Joram24.

Thanks to Whitepass, Cnr, Meridious and Sporbust for new or modified content.

Special thanks as always to fdugger.
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Have fun,

Andy ;)

[Dermmy]

Reserved for content support...

Kuid2:95761:15411:1 SP Autorack from Cnr, TPR DownloadDepot (http://trainzproroutes.com/downloads/index.php?act=view&id=197)

kuid:138423:1000041 Jorams 89' SP boxcar from RRMods, http://www.rrmods.com/downloads/trs04/86FT_JORAM_PACK1.cdp

[colhad]

Lookin forward to this one Andy, downloading as I type. Can't wait to have a look.:mop:

[lornyk5]

What a nice surprise, thank you Andy.:udrool:

Lorin:wave:

[Ferrous]

Wahoo! DL-ing now!

[Swordfish]

Wow, a marvellous map and a lot of fun! :)

Thank you very much for it, Andy

Regards

Swordfish

PS: My problems did I tell you in a e-mail

[guido73]

I'm looking forward to running this with a heavily air conditioned ATSF/BNSF fleet.

[colin55]

The link for the NS C40-8 download shows a Error 404-Not Found

Does anyone know what

95761:15360
95761:15361
95761:15362
95761:15363
95761:15364
95761:145411

are?

[Swordfish]

You will find the missing kuids here (registration necessary):

http://trainzproroutes.com/downloads/index.php?act=view&id=250

Regards

Swordfish

[colin55]

Thanks for the link.

Just leaves 95761:145411 to find.

[Swordfish]

The session "Belen Dispatcher" is making the time running very fast, congratulations! :)

Regards

Swordfish

[Dermmy]

@ colin55 - I think you mean Kuid2:95761:15411:1 since I don't have 95761:145411 either :)

SP Autorack from Cnr, TPR DownloadDepot (http://trainzproroutes.com/downloads/index.php?act=view&id=197)

Session Downloads Page updated (http://checkrail.com/session_1.htm)

Andy :)

[Dermmy]

OOPS. There was a content goof in the original session - thanks Swordfish.

The link from the
Checkrail Download Page (http://checkrail.com/clovisroute.htm)
now points to a corrected version, anyone who downloaded the session early should grab the new version....

Andy :)

[colin55]

Thanks very much. :)

[backyard]

8) Thanks Dermmy!

Do we have to load the trains in the session?

Are there any locomotives added to the sessions, ie. I have configured files to my liking, would any other than what you have listed be changed?

[Dermmy]

Hi Allen

All trains with 'visible' loads in the session load using the 'InstantLoad' driver command. Trains with 'invisible' loads are left empty to keep the weight down and decrease the chance of trains rolling through red signals. No config changes are needed.

Only one train actually loads while on the line and that is a quarry train that runs from the Albuquerque Portal to the ATSF Ballast Quarry and returns to Albuquerque. This train also uses the 'InstantLoad' command.

Hope that answers your questions....

Andy :)

[caddylars]

Solved:hehe:

[colhad]

I've had no problem getting all dependancies, Andy did a great job in putting links to them on his home site.

I took a drive on Clovis Sub lastnight and was impressed. Awesome work Andy.:)

[smash]

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7070/missingfw8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
By smashpede (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/smashpede)
kuid:219472:1737
Any help is welcomed.
Kenny


Edit
I have already downloaded everything from all links.
Thanks again.

[vonbane]

I've downloaded everything except the NS c40-8 which gives me a 404 error and am missing the following dependency.

Unknown Location: <kuid:55290:10000>

[colin55]

kuid:219472:1737 is CSX GP40-2 Blue

kuid:55290:10000 is 60ft Boxcar NS1

kuid:138423:1000041 is 86ft SP Boxcar

kuid:95761:15361999 etc are BNSF Wellcars

[smash]

kuid:219472:1737 is CSX GP40-2 Blue

Thanks Collin
I forgot about the Gp40 Pack.:o

That is what happens when you have a cold.
Kenny

[caddylars]

Ok, now theres only two missing for the session
Any ideas?
A link would be nice:hehe:

Unknown Location: <kuid:138423:1000041>
Unknown Location: <kuid:203465:20004190>

I realy wanna run this session.


Lars

[colin55]

kuid:203465:20004190 is the route:o

kuid:138423:1000041 is 86ft SP Boxcar

[caddylars]

kuid:203465:20004190 is the route:o

kuid:138423:1000041 is 86ft SP Boxcar




So please explain this: I have been driving the route all day long, and you say its missing:eek:

The second thing you told me is old news, its already posted, a bit up on this side.

My issue is where its located, since its not listed at the session's site?


Lars

[colin55]

The link for the route is in the first post of this thread isn't it?

[Ferrous]

Lars, I think the SP boxcar is from the rrmods link on the session page. :wave:

[Dermmy]

kuid:138423:1000041 Sorry - missed that one. It is indeed one of Jorams from RRMods, but the link is http://www.rrmods.com/downloads/trs04/86FT_JORAM_PACK1.cdp

Session download page updated....

Andy :)

[Dermmy]

kuid:203465:20004190 - yep that's the route. I have noticed on occasions that TRS06/CMP will 'edit' kuid numbers on downloaded assets.

Suggested (but untried) fix...

Open CMP and check the route kuid. If it is NOT 203465:20004190 then open the session config (via CMP/Edit in Explorer) and alter the 'map-kuid' tag to reflect the route kuid as installed on your system. If you are not confident with such edits, clone the session first...

Andy :)

[smash]

Well I had to reload trainz. Lost some things.
Now I need
kuid2:45324:100037:1
kuid2:45324:100081:1

I have tried looking and cannot find them.


And the other thing to note, the download for the Ns C40-8 appears to be missing from RRmods. Maybe that is wht I am missing.

Thank you all for your patience.

Kenny

[Dermmy]

Kenny

The NS C40-8 is indeed at RRMods, at the link given on the session download page. If you are getting a 404 error it is probably because you are not registered/logged in at RRMods. The RRMods Homepage link is also on the session download page.

45324:100037:1 and 100081:1 are the USLW SD40-2 and SD40-2B pack from USLW. Link is on the session download page.

Session download page is here (http://checkrail.com/session_1.htm).

Andy :)

[backyard]

8) Hello Andy Turnbull!

I have never seen CSX units run so fast for sooooo loooong!

I don't have all the assets yet, however, this is so what I wish to have, as far as running the wheels, plum-off a Diesel-electric locomotive!

And I will have screenies...for sure!

[Dermmy]

Thanks Allen!! It's an unlikely consist that far west, but I had to have something from East Kentucky on the route....

Andy ;)

[axe1970]

Dermmy,

Awesome work mate. I am still downloading stuff, but I have had a look at the route, and it is awesome....

[smash]

Hi Folks,
I thought I would update about the NS C-40. I ask the nice folks over at rrmods.
Joram24 said it got deleted accidentally.
See here.
http://www.rrmods.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=251

Make me feel better. I thought I was goning nuts.:)

Kenny
Oh and thanks Dermmy for the Route and session.
I have not had time yet to explore it.

[Dermmy]

oh Darn :(

I checked all the links for this before releasing, but the link I have is to the RRMods download page, which works. The link from the RRMods page to the download is dead - I didn't test that...

Gimme a day or two to talk to Sureshot and either work something out or re-do the session.....

Andy :)

[bnsf50]

Dermmy

Thanks for the route and session, you did a fantastic job. I ran it for six hours yesterday without any problems at all. Had to play dispatcher a few times, but that's normal. So if people start complaining that I'm not getting any thing made any more its Dermmy's fault. I'm addicted.:D

[Dermmy]

Thanks bnsf50 :)

That elusive NS C40-8 is now available from checkrail.com - click here (http://checkrail.com/third-party-dl.htm).

Thanks to Sureshot and Sp_or_bust for permission to host.

Andy :)

[smash]

Dermmy,
Thanks for all you have done. We appreciate it.
Please send thanks along to Sureshot and Sp_or_bust for making the beautiful model available again.
I should now have everything in place to have fun.
Kenny

[IsambardKingdomBrunel]

post deleted

[Mr_D]

Looks like a fun route and I have it running but am missing several kuids for the session.

2:113556:11104,2915,331129,62215,69915,77215,51110 0:1, 51199:1
138423:1100228
55290:1000
95761:15360999
:1999
:2999
:3999
:4999

261222:1053

All the CSX's are missing a "shell" but it is listed as unknown rather than missing kuid.
I know one of the kuids is a horn but don't know where to find it.


I have been through the downloads three times now and believe I have hit them all so I am not getting something that I need but where is the question.

[Mr_D]

I noticed in the tutorial that mention is made of trailer trains but no trailers are showing. What trailers should be showing up?
thanks

[Dermmy]

Hey Mr D

Everything you are missing is linked to near the bottom of this page (http://checkrail.com/session_1.htm).

Specifically you are missing:

- all of Sp-or-bust's C44 -8 and -9 variants from TrainStation (the 2113556 kuids);

- all of cnr's BNSF Wellcars from TPR Download Station (the 95761 kuids);

- some of the RRmods 60 foot boxcars (all the other kuids);

As to the trailer trains, no trailers will show in Surveyor - the spine cars will be empty - but they should show up in Driver. You should have them, AFAIK the trailers are packed with the spinecars.

What is the kuid of the missing horn?

Let me know if you continue to have problems...

Andy :)

[Mr_D]

Thanks, after reloading the well cars several times I have them but with error messages that I can't seem to solve although I have tried all the old tricks. 20ft and 40ft tags not allowed. I think something to do with the brackets but can't seem to get it worked out.

the horn is 261222:1053

I have reloaded everything on the list three or four times but am still missing the following according to the cpm

138423:11002228
55290:1000
2:113556:11104:1
:2915:1
:331129:1
:62215:1

Sorry to be a bother but now I really want to try the route. It loads but when I try to run it it locks up and turns black so I have to have these I guess.
Thanks for your help

[bnsf50]

Concerning the 20' and 40' tags, sounds like they were meant to be part of the description and got some quotation marks inadvertently inserted which made them a new tag. Too fix just hit the X at the end of them in cmp which will remove them which will not hurt a thing. They can be fixed another way too but you would have to open the asset for edit and fix it in the config file, not recommended unless you know what you're doing in there.

The missing assets I cannot help with perhaps some one will be along that recognizes them.

[Mr_D]

Well, I've got a few more. I dl the c40's as well as the 44's . I must be missing something else as I am still missing these two.

2:113556:11104:1
2:113556:331129:1

If you could put a name to those it would help.

Also the horn is still missing and all the gp40-2's have a missing kuid which is a shell I think. They still load however.

[Mr_D]

This is what I am talking about. The error message says that none of them are allowed so I think a bracket may be wrong. This is the 40ft bottom one. There are six or seven all told.


queues {
40ft_bottom_gjvh {
size 1
initial-count 0
attachment-points {
0 "a.container00"
}
allowed-products {
0 <kuid:49267:35005>
1 <kuid2:30671:98906001:1>
}
}

[ex-railwayman]

Hello Andy, before I install this onto my TRS2004, can you tell me approx. how many assets are there please, less than 1000 or more than???

Thank you.

Cheerz. ex-railwayman :wave:

[bnsf50]

Heres the config from well car 95781 15360 to compare it with and or copy into if all criteria match. Hope this helps, as I can't see anything wrong with the snip you showed in previous post.


kuid <kuid:95761:15360>
kind "traincar"
origin "US"
mass 19750
enginespec <kuid:-1:42004201>
icon0 <kuid2:30671:69011:1>
description "Burlington Northern Santa Fe double stack well car."
script "wellcar"
class "wellcar"
category-class "XFC"
username "BNSF Well1A"
author "Shane Stewart"
organisation "TrainzProRoutes"
contact-email "stewart@railfan.net"
contact-website "www.trainzproroutes.com"
license "Copyright 2005 Shane Stewart

Models may not be modified in any way without written permission from both the author, Shane Stewart, and TrainzProRoutes."
category-region "CA;US"
category-era "1980s;1990s;2000s"
trainz-build 2.5
engine 0
obsolete-table {
}
string-table {
maxweight "72900"
}
mesh-table {
default {
mesh "bnsf_well1A_body/bnsf_well1A_body.lm"
auto-create 1
}
shadow {
mesh "bnsf_well1A_shadow/bnsf_well1A_shadow.im"
}
}
queues {
20ft_1_gjvh {
size 1
initial-count 0
attachment-points {
0 "a.container03"
}
allowed-products {
0 <kuid:49267:35004>
1 <kuid2:30671:98906005:1>
2 <kuid2:30671:98906006:1>
}
}
20ft_2_gjvh {
size 1
initial-count 0
attachment-points {
0 "a.container04"
}
allowed-products {
0 <kuid:49267:35004>
1 <kuid2:30671:98906005:1>
2 <kuid2:30671:98906006:1>
}
}
20ft_1_auran {
size 1
initial-count 0
attachment-points {
0 "a.container03"
}
allowed-products {
0 <kuid:-3:10014>
1 <kuid2:96314:8000:1>
}
}
20ft_2_auran {
size 1
initial-count 0
attachment-points {
0 "a.container04"
}
allowed-products {
0 <kuid:-3:10014>
1 <kuid2:96314:8000:1>
}
}
40ft_bottom_gjvh {
size 1
initial-count 0
attachment-points {
0 "a.container00"
}
allowed-products {
0 <kuid:49267:35005>
1 <kuid2:30671:98906001:1>
}
}
40ft_bottom_auran {
size 1
initial-count 0
attachment-points {
0 "a.container00"
}
allowed-products {
0 <kuid:-3:10041>
}
}
40ft_top_gjvh_bottom_gjvh {
size 1
initial-count 0
attachment-points {
0 "a.container02"
}
allowed-products {
0 <kuid:49267:35005>
1 <kuid2:30671:98906001:1>
2 <kuid2:30671:98906002:1>
}
}
}
kuid-table {
0 <kuid:45681:50000>
1 <kuid:58377:50020>
2 <kuid:58377:50021>
3 <kuid2:30671:69011:1>
4 <kuid:49267:35005>
5 <kuid:49267:35004>
6 <kuid2:30671:98906005:1>
7 <kuid2:30671:98906006:1>
8 <kuid2:30671:98906001:1>
9 <kuid2:30671:98906002:1>
10 <kuid:-1:42004201>
11 <kuid:-3:10014>
12 <kuid2:96314:8000:1>
13 <kuid:-3:10041>
}
bogeys {
0 {
bogey <kuid:45681:50000>
reversed 0
}
1 {
bogey <kuid:45681:50000>
reversed 0
}
2 {
bogey <kuid:58377:50020>
reversed 0
}
3 {
bogey <kuid:58377:50021>
reversed 0
}
}

[Mr_D]

Found the problem, it was missing two closing brackets. So now I have the two missing kuids which are locos of some kind but don't know what. And the horn which I can change the kuid, and the gp40-2 which have an unknown kuid not missing and each one is different.

I am getting closer.

[bnsf50]

Found the problem, it was missing two closing brackets. So now I have the two missing kuids which are locos of some kind but don't know what. And the horn which I can change the kuid, and the gp40-2 which have an unknown kuid not missing and each one is different.

I am getting closer.
Need some kuid numbers please.

[willblunden]

Just downloaded, had a look at the screenies, just the route to run some SP.
Cheers Will

[bnsf50]

Hello Andy, before I install this onto my TRS2004, can you tell me approx. how many assets are there please, less than 1000 or more than???

Thank you.

Cheerz. ex-railwayman :wave:

390 counting the dependencies for the session.

That would be just a few high because I have added some signals and my road crossings.

[Mr_D]

I am now down to one.

SPORBUST 331129:1

[ex-railwayman]

390 counting the dependencies for the session.

That would be just a few high because I have added some signals and my road crossings.

Oh, is that all, that's very good then for this size of route, other much smaller routes I have downloaded off the DLS recently have had between 800 and 1200 dependencies.
I am not using TRS2006 anymore, so I won't bother with the session, but may change the signals as well and see what the spline situation is like particularly around Benin, according to Andy's notes on his website, he's mentioned that fps may be heavy in that area.

Thank you very much for your help bnsf50, sorry I've forgotten your name..... I am really looking forward to playing on this, and I'm sure some more screenshots of this route will follow accordingly......:hehe:

No doubt Andy will take a deserved rest after completing this first installment.

Thanks Dermmy, you're a star.....


Cheerz. ex-railwayman. :wave:

[bnsf50]

I am now down to one.

SPORBUST 331129:1

You can get it here, this is Sp_or_bust's new web site.

http://www.trainzstation.com/Files.html

Forgot to mention that's his bnsf ES44AC. You'll need the name because he doesn't list the items by kuid number. He may have the horn and stuff you need there too. You'll have some cleanup work to do because he uses 04 to build in and consequently there are quite a few errors in the config files. But they are very very nice engines.

[Mr_D]

Thanks, I have dl that several times but something must be wrong with it so I will do it again and then look it up.

[Dermmy]

Hey Mr D - glad you are getting there! And thanks BNSF for the support help - night time here :)

Let me know Mr D if you still need anything.....

Andy :)

[Mr_D]

Up and running. I fixed the geeps by deleting the shell kuid. The well cars were a bother but got them too, adding a couple of brackets and a "kind".
Finally got all the locos, was missing one not on the recommened list so I guess I should have just d/l all of them to start with. I thought I had done that one just to see what it was but guess not or it didn't take.

I ran last night till my wife threatened me and got the tt to the exit spot. Nice track work and an enjoyable ride. I started with sliders to the left but kept moving them and it ran fine with everything to the right.

I am trying to chart which trains (drivers) are going east and which west to see if I can get a better handle on who needs to go where and I will try it again. Maybe not today as I have to go out of town to see a grandson in a play.

Thanks for all the help I received. I have found this community to be the most helpful of any I have ever been on and I was here before the first program was released and have seen all the frustration and battles.

[bnsf50]

No problem at all I was glad to help, was in and out of the house yesterday, the reason for the long pause between some of the posts.

The only one I was having a problem with was Cafe in the CSX C40-8 yn2 dirty West bound out of Albuquerque, he didn't like the route he was assigned so I gave him a 20 min wait and sent him via the Belen depot, he likes that route and the 20 min wait lets the east bound traffic get up far enough to take hold of the switch's they need, so they don't get into a Mexican standoff.

[Mr_D]

I removed the "shell" kuid from the config file and the session loaded but if I click on one of the gp 40-2's I get an error message saying shell not found in the kuid list. Do you have any suggestions on how to solve this problem? Thanks

[bnsf50]

I removed the "shell" kuid from the config file and the session loaded but if I click on one of the gp 40-2's I get an error message saying shell not found in the kuid list. Do you have any suggestions on how to solve this problem? Thanks

If you're referring to the shell as the interior then thats where the problem is. Give me a kuid number of the geep and I will look at mine and see what interior it is suppose to have.

[Mr_D]

I reload all the gp40-2's and finals and this time I got shells with lots of errors. I corrected all of them except the "generic shell" and I will not try that. Thanks again.

Ran the session and it worked fine. nice route and fun to manage the trains.

[Dermmy]

...The only one I was having a problem with was Cafe in the CSX C40-8 yn2 dirty West bound out of Albuquerque, he didn't like the route he was assigned ...

Thanks for the comments guys :)

On that Cafe problem the quick fix is: As soon as you get the 'radio' message that he is stuck, throw junction Belen13C to give him a yellow sig and Belen14 to give him a green. I have no idea why he stalls - trains running later in the session with identical instructions find the route without issue, but Cafe will sit all day waiting if you don't throw 13C for him....

One of the things I like about the session is the completely different results you get playing around with 'wait' commands...

Andy :)

[Mr_D]

I got to run the session twice before I left to visit grandkids and both times I got him moving that way. It seemed as it he headed off to the left instead of the mainline and I never got to finish that one to see if he wound up in the right place. I couldn't figure why the train at the filling station was holding him up. I will try it again when I get back and see what he does. What is the ratio of trains going east versus west over larger time span? Thanks again for a nice layout.

[backyard]

8) Dermmy, how did you add content, that causes so many problems?

Never mind the problems I'm having(all the scenery items, track, textures, crossings, people peeing behind the buildings, so forth, are there)...

Please list any changes you made to rolling stock & content, you used to make the Sessions!

Don't get me wrong, I so love the route, however the trainz listed in the sessions, do not appear.

And, to help you feel better, I use your Kentucky Route, as an alternative!

[Dermmy]

@ MrD - over the long haul the proportion of trains generated Eastbound: Westbound is about even. A LOT depends though on how often you save/quit/load-saved-session. Every time you load a saved game the portal clocks are re-set to zero, so nothing new is generated for 30 minutes.

@ Backyard - I install all rolling stock into TRS04 and run TrainzObjectz to fix errors before copying the corrected asset into 06. I ignore errors reported by CMP. It is more than possible that content I have installed this way gives problems if installed directly into TRS06. It is no big thing to swap out assets and release a new session if there are any particular items of content giving people grief. Let me know....

Andy :)

[backyard]

8) Thanks Dermmy, for the quick reply!

I note the content changes in TrainzObjects, and acknowledge as such...

Probably, most of the content is held up in CMP, and clearing this, will provide the sessions with the missing items.

I just needed to know your procedure. By editing in TO, you imported corrected content into CMP, and ignore all the errors reported...got it!

It is complicated, but in no way impossible.

Thanks Dermmy!

Allen/Backyard

[shahichirag]

Just a question for Andy or anybody who knows about railways in US. Does all 2 mainline operation happen in a similar manner as is shown/designed in Clovis sub session..

Is there any website which documents prototypical operations in US.

Chirag

[Mr_D]

Have been enjoying session. Had a runaway train cause a derailment and had trouble getting the spare locos running. I will assign them a driver incase that happens again. Where did he come from anyway?

Would like to explore the possibility of adding industries to get some loading and unloading going on if that is not a problem. This will be for my own use and not something to upload.

[Dermmy]

@ Chirag - historically most USA railroads observed right-hand running on double tracks. Modern high-speed operation favours bi-directional on both tracks on some routes.

@ Mr D: Glad you got things sorted out. Whether to have industries or not was discussed among some of the beta group and the consensus was that this is not really a 'drop-a-boxcar' type route. There were ProtoLars industry tracks at all likely spots at one stage during testing. If you wish to resurrect them for your own use go for it!

Andy :)

[MountE]

Hi Demmy
Downloaded the route and session yesterday along with the rolling stock. No problem with route. Sesion gives one item missing.

KUID 2:137823:318:1

There is also a missing hornsound on the BNSF SD40-2 & BNSF SD40-2B.

KUID 261222:1053

I guess I could change out the horn but would rather not. Ran the session yesterday but didn't have allthe engines needed so nothing came out of the portals. Very beautiful route and well made.

MountE

[Dermmy]

Thanks MountE:

Hornsound is A5Hr24 from USLW on this page (http://www.uslw.net/downloads.php?action=cat&cat_id=10&PHPSESSID=ee7c293cd634bf15d9c45a88a8e4c7ce).

137823:318 is BN 60 foot boxcar from RRMods.com, 4th item down on this page (http://www.rrmods.com/rs.shtml).

Andy :)

[MountE]

Thanks for the reply. I had downloaded the boxcar but must have missed it when opening the cdp's. There was quite a few of them!

I ran the session for about 2hr yesterday but I'm having trouble getting trains to come out the portals. Going to play it again today see if I get better results.

Thanks again;

MountE

[omber]

Excelent route Dermmy, looks great especially if you use trainz tuner to increase the view distance for terrain so you can see the mountains from far away :D

[Dermmy]

OOPS

Please re-download the custom Clovis Billboard from Checkrail.com - click here to do so (http://www.checkrail.com/routes/clovis/Clovis_Billboard.cdp).

I forgot to change the image in the 'night' view, so round about 6.30pm the sign reverts to 'McCall Intermodal', it's previous manifestation for McCall Yard. The new billboard is 'kuid2' so will automatically obsolete the original in TRS04 and TRS06 (and I assume in later versions also).

Slightly Off -Topic, I just got the session to run for 12 hours plus (took several days) without intervention, still going......

Andy :)

[bnsf50]

Thanks for the sign fix Dermmy.
I have a general question concerning AI's and since your route uses a lot of them I thought you or somebody else reading this might have an answer.
When after running the session for several hours, now this doesn't happen early on, and an AI comes to an impasse and needs Assistance I tell the loco to stop so that I can control it. But the AI refuses to give up control. Derail doesn't work at this stage either. It appears that this AI is locked up. I have used one little trick and that is I've grabbed another train close by and used that one to shove the locked up AI/AI's on down to the next exit portal. Or I have to start the session over to get out of it. Do you are anybody else know of a way to free the AI up so that the session can be continued normally.

[Dermmy]

Sounds like the train in question has 'slid' past a red signal - the give-away is an unchanging speed of 1mph. When this happens it is not possible to issue any commands to the train. I have had this happen a couple of times, always with the SP auto rack train.

AFAIK the only fixes are to 'grab' the train with another loco - as you have done, or switch junctions so that the train faces a dead-end. At the dead end the message 'Emergency braking complete, re-commencing schedule in 10 seconds' comes up and at that stage new orders can be issued to recover the situation.

I will upload a revised session with a shorter auto rack train in a couple of days.

OT - Away for two or three days (weather permitting) - off camping in the bush :)

Andy

[backyard]

8) Oh Derm, I wish I could camp out....it's 24° here in Tennessee, bring your Tree Stand Boots!

I have encountered this 1mph deal(Cumberland to Connellsville, lately), so long as no one is following, it's not a big deal, I have to follow-up on why...

[bnsf50]

Sounds like the train in question has 'slid' past a red signal - the give-away is an unchanging speed of 1mph. When this happens it is not possible to issue any commands to the train. I have had this happen a couple of times, always with the SP auto rack train.

AFAIK the only fixes are to 'grab' the train with another loco - as you have done, or switch junctions so that the train faces a dead-end. At the dead end the message 'Emergency braking complete, re-commencing schedule in 10 seconds' comes up and at that stage new orders can be issued to recover the situation.

I will upload a revised session with a shorter auto rack train in a couple of days.

OT - Away for two or three days (weather permitting) - off camping in the bush :)

Andy

Thanks Dermmy for the quick reply. Please don't worry about the long autorack train, I like long trains and thats not the problem, this situation can and does occur with any of the trains that come to an impasse/Mexican stand off. And it can happen on any route not just yours. It's no fault of yours, I just was wondering if any body knew of fix for it is all. I think it may be a memory issue even though I have 2GB, since it only happens after a long session like more than 2-3 hours. I might mention too that while this is happening the rest of the trains are performing just fine. So it appears that the two trains involved have locked horns so to speak in a heated argument and nobody can break them apart.:hehe: Am still enjoying your route immensely.

Anyway enjoy your camping trip and be safe. Watch out for the wallabies.

[Dermmy]

1000 downlods in 50 days - by no means a record, but thanks folks :)

Andy...

[Tommyjon]

:) Great Route

I got everything working (I think) and downloaded after only one day. Alot of the rolling stock I already had installed so that helped alot. It's just awsome to see a freeware route out there that looks this great.

I can't wait until your Indiana & Ohio Re-Done is released. Keep up the good work.;)

[Dermmy]

Thanks Tommyjon - I really appreciate the feedback :)

Don't hold your breath for the I&O - I am having a bit of a sabbatical after the first stage of Clovis and will probably do Clovis2 as my next release route. The I&O is just something I play with between 'real' projects....

Andy

[Ferrous]

...And the Tralee and Dingle? :p :D

[Dermmy]

T&D is my absolute favourite project, but is a HUGE undertaking. I have created the landscape for a 5 km draw distance so the sea view can be seen from Skylough (one of the truly beautiful scenic features of the real line) but a base 10 km wide is enough ground textures, stone walls and small farms to try the patience of a saint. The T&D is NOT vapourware, but I will be an old, old man before it sees the light of day....

Andy :)

[Ferrous]

Good to know it's not dead. :D

Hopefully, by the time it's released, I'll have a compy that can handle 5km draw distances. :p

[hoover]

Brilliant work Dermmy hanging out for the next installment. I have already double tracked Abo Canyon. Keep up the good work.:D

[backyard]

8) I'm having trouble finding kuid2:113556:62215:1...if I knew what it was, I would be able to find, or replace the asset.


Why, doth my Driver, sit alone, single engine, no train?
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/4907/upalonewz9.jpg


I noticed, no search light signals work, on the whole route...
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7178/noredsh0.jpg


Train has gone by, turnouts are aligned, no clear signal...
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8485/nogreenmh8.jpg
http://imageshack.us/img/iss4.png

[Dermmy]

Hi Allen

Easy Answers
113556:62215:1 is Frank's Union Pacific C40-8W, available from TrainzStation here (http://www.trainzstation.com/Files.html). The hornsound is probably packed seperately.

In the first screenie the spartan cab C40 should be followed by a couple of the -8W's (which you don't have) then a long train of covered hoppers - you have the hoppers, they are built in TRS06 content. I assume they don't show because of the missing locos.

Hard Answers
I have no idea why the signal lights don't show. They work in 04 and 06. My only suggestion is that the missing content has glitched the session. Do the lights show in Surveyor, and if so do they behave properly if you drop a piece of rolling stock in front of them?

Much the same answer for the junction problem - do they behave properly in Surveyor?

Andy :)

[f1terry]

Hello
I have downloaded Clovis Sub and dispatcher but I cannot find some Kuids.

2:7592:10232:1
2:96314:8000:1
138423:4000055

I hope that someone can help.

Thank you

[meridious]

KUID2:7592:10232:1 is on the TPR Download Depot

KUID2:96314:8000:1 is on the DLS

138423:4000055........No idea

[backyard]

8) A huge amount of help is at this thread (http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=22456).

[Dermmy]

138423:4000055 - Joram's ASF Freight Truck, available from RRMods, last item on this page (http://www.rrmods.com/rs.shtml). Surprised that one was missing, it is packed with all the RRMods box cars used on the session, anyway it is available as a separate item as above.

Cheers, Andy :)

[azathoth92]

Dermmy,

According to this thread
http://www.trainzproroutes.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6336
TPR has lost the archive for your well cars, and Momentum is asking for someone to send them a copy of the file to restore it. Will you resend it to them, please.

Thank you. Thank you.

Looking forward to running your route. <hat tip>

[meridious]

It's already been taken care of. They are back up and ready for you to get.

[azathoth92]

This is an awesome route, and a great session. An instant classic.

I love running realistic size consists. My kind of trainzing!!
Excellent, excellent, excellent.

Thank you Dermmy!

[Dermmy]

Thanks Mike :)

and thanks azathoth92...

Andy

[Dermmy]

and thanks AJ :)

[Spruce]

I thought I had downloaded and installed all the required assets but these are persistant. Any chance of a name to go with these so that I can complete the session?

Thanks
Alan



Unknown Location: <kuid2:113556:10000010:1>
Unknown Location: <kuid2:113556:10000011:1>
Unknown Location: <kuid2:113556:10000012:1>
Unknown Location: <kuid2:113556:10000013:1>
Unknown Location: <kuid2:113556:10000014:1>

[Dermmy]

Sp_or_Bust's 5-car artic spinecar set. There is a link on the Checkrail session page, but here it is again (http://www.trainzstation.com/Rolling_Stock.html).

Andy :)

[Spruce]

Thanks for that. I must have a blind spot

Alan

[Dermmy]

Hi Folks

I am taking a short break from Trainz...

No, I haven't chucked a wobbly, blown my cool or kicked the bucket. I am just surveyored out after a couple of major projects with too many other projects on the 'back burner'.

I WILL be back - prolly in not too long a while.

I will continue to offer support to all my routes through this forum, but will only be monitoring existing threads. If anyone spots a new thread anywhere, can some kind soul post a heads-up in this thread to get my attention.

PLEASE no get-well-soon, hurry back, etc etc posts, they are a waste of space and I ain't going anywhere...

Cheers,

Andy :)

[backyard]

8) ...and Thanks Dermmy, I found the missing content...had it in my collections of downloads.

Some of Nikos GP40's show some goofy results in CMP, however the motive power shows, and how!

Something about missing textures.

Also SPorBust's GP60's play the same game, but they show, and...so...

I wanted a long distance, wide open route, and you have captured US-America running in a so regal way!

...another great route, by Dermmy!

[collinsl]

Hi,
Sorry to bump this, but I have the following missing KUIDS that I need to find:

Unknown Location: <kuid:138423:1100227>
Unknown Location: <kuid:138423:1100229>
Unknown Location: <kuid:219472:1876>
Unknown Location: <kuid:219472:1879>
Unknown Location: <kuid:55290:10000>
Unknown Location: <kuid2:113556:71111:1>
Unknown Location: <kuid2:45324:100037:1>
Unknown Location: <kuid2:45324:100081:1>

EDIT: as well as: Unknown Location: <kuid2:45324:50015:1>
for the CSX trains.
Sorry if you have already said about these, but I cannot find them anywhere.

Thanks,

[Dermmy]

No apologies necessary :)

Everything you are missing is linked to directly from this page (http://checkrail.com/session_1.htm). Use the notes below in conjunction with the links page to get directly to what you need.

Specifically you are missing...

138423:1100227 and :1100229 are 60' Boxcars RBOX and ATSF from RRMods. 55290:10000 is 60'Boxcar NS from same source;

219472:1876 and 1879 are CSX C40-8W YN2 and YN2 Dirty from USLW;

45324:100037:1 and 100081:1 are BNSF SD40-2 and SD40-2B also from USLW;

113556:71111:1 is KCS SD70 from TrainStation;

45324:50015 is an odd one - it is a Blomberg truck should have come with DLS content, but download any GP40-2 from VMD here (http://www.virtual-motive-division.com/html/us_loco.html) and you should get what you need.

I think that's the lot - post back if anything is still no-show.

[collinsl]

HI,
Sorry, I posted those in a rush before going to work. I should have left them, but there you go. I am now missing: kuid2:45324:50015:1. I have seen a post about it on the USLW form that says that it is a bogey from the VMD KCS GPs, but after downloading them I am still missing it.

EDIT: I obviously got that confused. It was made by NorfolkSouthern37. I still cannot find it, though.

EDIT2: It was part of either the VMD KCS/CSK GP40-2s, or the dependancies. it was just CMP being picky about not showing it.
Thanks,

[Jimmyp4]

I've been looking for this kuid

kuid:261222:1053

For the BNSF SD40's, I've reinstalled trainz 3 times since you realease this roue (way too many crashes) and everytime i reinstall those sd40s it always skips this kuid, where can i get it from?

[Dermmy]

Airchime K5Hr24 (http://www.uslw.net/downloads.php?action=view&id=187) from USLW

[Jimmyp4]

thanks a bunch!

[Macan]

hey i downloaded the route but for some reason its 3 basebords wide and 1 baseboard long , i know that aint right so what am i suposed to do about it ?:D

[Dermmy]

Corrupt download? The downloaded cdp should be about 37 Mb, but I'd suggest deleting the previous download and d/l the cdp again....

Andy :)

[Macan]

im downloading once more now, one more question , ive downloaded everything from the links for the session, is ther any more site i need to visit in order to make the trains to work ? only trains i get to work is the CSX SD40´s but that pakc contains everything i needed, ive downloaded everythings from the sites but it still dont work, any idea ?

[Dermmy]

Everything not linked from the download page is on the DLS and can be downloaded automatically for 04 or 06/later versions.

On the SD40 problem, can you identify any missing assets using CMP (06) or TrainzObjectz (04)...

Andy

[shahichirag]

Hey Andy I am missing kuid:203465:20004190 from the session. Any idea where i can find it

[Dermmy]

First time I've had to look that one up...

KUID:203465:20004190 is the route - definitely tricky to run the session without it :confused:

[shahichirag]

opps sorry :confused: i was looking at missing dependencies list on content manager and i forgot i has deleted the route as earlier i had saved it some modifications, and since there were 2 routes with same name i deleted the original :wave: :wave: :wave:

But thanks anyways....

Chirag Shah

[er9m]

Sorry if i misunderstood something, but the only kuid which is missing for the scenarios is <kuid:55290:10000>, althought i've downloaded all 60ft boxcars from rrmods and someone says, that this is 60ft NS1 boxcar. Where is it? Can anyone give the adress?

[Dermmy]

Hi er9m - the item you seek is the third item down on this page (http://www.rrmods.com/60ft.shtml)...

Andy ;)

[er9m]

Then something's wrong with sessions kuids, because i have downloaded it and <kuid:55290:10000> is still missing.

[Dermmy]

Nothing wrong with the session kuids old son, or else hundreds of users have the same glitch as I do :)

55290:10000 is the RRMods 60' Boxcar linked to in my previous post. Check and see if you have it in Railyard, it is "60ft Boxcar NS 1". Check the 'Open for Edit' tab in CMP and see if the asset is un-committed. Re-download the asset on the off chance you got a glitchy download. If it still aint there post back, we will sort it out for you.....

Andy ;)

EDIT: A tad harsh up there Dermmy my lad - there is a problem with that particular model, see my post on the next page....

[er9m]

As i download it, it installs <kuid:138423:4000057> and <kuid2:137823:315:1>. And i didn't forget to do commit. It is in trainz, but with name 60ft boxcar NS #469717. At first sight scenarios is working well, so i think that somthing's wrong with my trainz.

[Dermmy]

OK er9m, there is a problem.

55290:10000 is the new RRMods NS boxcar.

137823:315 is the old RRMods NS Boxcar.

138423:4000057 is the bogey for either model and you need that!

Both models have the same skin, but the old model is a slightly undersized mesh. I am certain the link given for the rolling stock was the new model when the session was tested, but now it is definitely to the old model, which is all very confusing. I have emailed Joe asking where we can find the 55290:10000 version.

In the meantime a quick fix would be to edit the kuid for the version you have to the kuid the session needs, you will have the wrong model, but at least the session will work. I will post back when I get an answer from RRMods.

Andy :)

[er9m]

Ok, Dermmy, thanks very much!

[er9m]

By the way, thank you for fantastic route and great scenarios!

[Dermmy]

My pleaseure er9m, thanks for the thanks.....

[railroy19]

Hi Dermmy
Wanted to thank you for a great route and session. The signals work very well, and the trackwork and scenery are very realistic.
I do however have some missing assets that I can't locate.
Hope you can lead me to some of them so my session has it's complete amount of cars.
These are what I'm looking for.
Kuid 138423: 1100227 1100228
55290: 10000>
113556: 11104> 2915> 62215> 69915> 71111>

Thanks for your time.
Bob

[Dermmy]

Hi Bob

From Trainzstation on this page (http://www.trainzstation.com/Files.html) you need:
UP C40-8 Ex CNW
ATSF C44-9W
UP C40-8W
SP C44-9W
KCS SD70 Ace
NOTE: The horns and enginespec are packed seerately and are located at the head of the left-hand column.

From RRMods on this page (http://www.rrmods.com/60ft.shtml) you need the 60' boxcars for BNSF and RBOX.

That just leaves 55290:10000 which is missing in action. The fix is to download the RRMods NS 60' Boxcar (same page as the link above) which is 137823:315 and edit the KUID to 55290:10000. This is exactly the same model as the missing asset, but on an older mesh. The kuid edit should get the session up and running. If the correct boxcar turns up installing it will simply over-write the modified asset...

Andy ;)

[ex-railwayman]

Hello young Andy, I'm really looking forward to part 2 of your Clovis Sub route and I noticed that you've added Maddy's excellent new roads to the layout, but, will you be doing the same to part 1, or, will you be leaving it to us to do that ourselves??

Keep up the great work kiddo.

Cheerz. ex.

[Dermmy]

Thanks Ex - Clovis 2 includes and extends Clovis1, so all the road-changes will come pre-packaged for your driving and viewing pleasure.

Andy ;)

[ex-railwayman]

Wow Andy, that's fantastic news, especially for us lazy beggers who didn't want to do it ourselves......:hehe:

Cheerz. ex.

[railroy19]

Thank You Andy.

I'm off to get these assets and run the session.

Great route!

[Dermmy]

Thanks to the good folks at RRMods the missing session boxcar Kuid:55290:10000 is currently available from the RRMods Forum (http://www.rrmods.com/forum/index.php). It's in the 'RRMods New Trainz Releases/Rolling Stock' area.

In a few days it should be back on the downloads page...

Thanks guys...

[railroy19]

Can anyone lead me to the K5LLA Horn Sound needed for the KS70Ace
I have this missing asset to find Kuid 2:200202:53710:1

Thanks to All.
Bob

[backyard]

:cool: That kuid 200202 belongs to csx_sd60...so, copy csx_sd6o & paste it into the Download Station search box, click "kuid" or "username" & go...the hornsound you want plus several other items you may want are there.

Kuid2:200202:53710:1 is one of the best enginesounds going...kuid2:200202:53645:1 is another, the one I use. Both are there. You can use these enginesounds for any turbocharged EMD 4, 6 or 8 axle locomotive.

Cheers!

[Dermmy]

Hi Bob - the enginesounds and horn's for Franks locos are packed separately on this page (http://www.trainzstation.com/Files.html). They are at the top of each column...

Andy ;)

[ex-railwayman]

If you want to try some other superb horns, then go to US Loco Works http://uslw.net/downloads.php?action=cat&cat_id=10
they've got quite a few good ones to choose from and you can blast your neighbours out all day long......:hehe:

Cheerz. ex.

[casanova419]

hi i just wanted to say is anyone having problems with the trainz station site
im getting a 404 error it been like that for about a week now with out the site some of the rolling stock and engines are not available any answers tnx

[Dermmy]

Trainztation is gone - Frank has a new site at http://www.sporbust.com/

I will update the Clovis Session content page at checkrail.com asap, but lots on my plate at the moment, might be a few days. In the mean time the download page lists all content needed, so it is not too big a job to grab them even without the links...

[Dermmy]

The Checkrail.com session download page is fixed, but not all of Frank's content is up at West Coast Trainz. I assume what is missing will be up soon...

[casanova419]

ok tnx for the info

[UH-60_CE]

Dermmy,
Ive downloaded the route and session, and I'm using them on TS2009. It looks very nice and runs well with 1 exception on the session. All the AI trains move at 2 mph unless under my control. If I take control I can get them moving at the appropriate speed but, then all I do is keep checking trains as they are speeding up and slowing down due to terrain.
Could you please offer any advice on the AI trains following their schedule ? I understand that this wasn't made for use in TS2009, but Im new to all this and wonder if there is something that I have missed.

Thanks,
Mog

[Dermmy]

hi mog

Oops - I keep forgetting to update the download page for a known TRS2009 issue.

You must remove every instance of the 'AI-Brake' from every consist, including Portal consists. The artificial brake was needful in TRS06, but for some unknown reason is broken in 09.

I will attempt an 09-compliant session shortly.....

Andy :)

[Dermmy]

There is now a quick and dirty UNTESTED OPEN BETA session for TRS09 on the Checkrail.com Clovis download page. The session is identical to the TRS06 session except the AI-Brake is removed from all consists. Click my sig and follow the Download links.

Please report any issues either here or via email...

Andy :)

[IsambardKingdomBrunel]

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[IsambardKingdomBrunel]

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[Dermmy]

Thanks Mike, I don't have TRS09 but thought the new session would work - good to know it does!

Andy :)

[UH-60_CE]

Dermmy,
Sorry it took so long to get back to you, but I wanted to let you know the 2009 version works great. Thank you for helping me out.

Mog

[Dermmy]

Thanks for prompting me to fix something i should have done ages ago....

[ct_krogen]

jusy wanted to say,, thax's for one nice route and i can't wait to the next version,,,,

[Dermmy]

Thanks ct :)

[Rougespear7mm]

I realize that I'm resurrecting an old thread, but I'm having a gret deal of difficulty locating a kuid: 261222:1053. It's a missing dependancy of the BNSF SD40-2's off of USLW. Any help in locating them?

Cheers, Brent

[ex-railwayman]

Hello Brent,

You can find that asset on USLW it's an Airchime K5Hr24 recorded from Bay Colony's U-Boat locomotive. Cannot remember the exact location, try under the hornsound section.....

Cheerz. ex-railwayman.

[Rougespear7mm]

Thankyou very much exrailwayman! That cleared all dependancies for Clovis Sub and the TRS2009 Session, so as of this date, all are still available.

Cheers

[Dermmy]

That cleared all dependancies for Clovis Sub and the TRS2009 Session, so as of this date, all are still available.

I check 'em fairly regularly, but I will add a note to the download page regarding that hornsound. Thanks Ex :)

Andy

[Rougespear7mm]

So Andy... absolutely stunning work, I have to say; I'm looking foward to any future additions very much!!

I'm new to Trainz so I'm still learning... couple questions though. The drivers will say they are waiting at a specific junction and will not move because of a red signal or an oncoming train. I'm trying to get the train to crossover the double track, but the switches are locked for the oncoming train to use the crossover! How do I switch which train will enter the crossover first? Another situation: there is a train still making it's way up Abo Canyon, but hasn't hit the double track yet - how do I follow another train up the canyon hot on it's heals?

I'm getting a few interesting things with the AI: I had one mexican standoff I had to manage myself, but otherwise its been going fairly well. I have had a lone BNSF SD70Ace enter and run the length of the route from the east, and an empty trailer train enter from the west - I CANNOT control these trains and they're not assigned a driver, but they're driving all right, lol... I can't do anything with them... any thoughts?

I'm wondering if you may be able to lend a had, I would like to modify this session slightly for my own personal use. I'd like to mix up the consists a little more, I ended up having two consists parked in Belen fueling and they were both identical! How could I edit the rolling stock for these trains to switch the cars up with others that look different; is it simple enough to learn?

Can I add a local that would arrive in to Belen, drop some cars and pick some up and then leave? Is that possible with AI?

I'm not familar with the operations on the Clovis Sub, so I don't know much really:) Any help is much appreciated!

Cheers, Brent

[Euphod]

I have had a lone BNSF SD70Ace enter and run the length of the route from the east, and an empty trailer train enter from the west - I CANNOT control these trains and they're not assigned a driver, but they're driving all right, lol... I can't do anything with them... any thoughts?

This is often the result of saving and shutting down the session when a train is being produced by a portal. The save ruins the train being assigned a driver, and the train will just motor on, oblivious to any interaction from you UNLESS you can catch it and couple on with a engine that has a driver assigned. Then you can can give it commands. It's fun, you ought to try to catch one of these runaways someday!:)

[Dermmy]

Wow Brent - twenty questions !!

As Ed says, i suspect you have saved while a portal is spawning a train which can be catastrophic :( It is hard to avoid with three portals creating at more-or less random intervals. I generally save twice about five minutes apart, if the first save is cactus, chances are the second will be OK.

You can add new trains to the portals or edit the existing trains in Surveyor, simply go to the portal, enter 'Objects' mode and click the portal with the '?' tool active.

Be wary of adding too much content. Repeat content uses less resources than a lot of variety and too much content will at least slow you down or possibly crash your system...

There are instructions on this page (http://checkrail.com/session_1.htm) that show how to get control of a junction from an AI driver.

The only way to follow hard on the heels of a train up the canyon is cancel the AI driver instructions and drive it up yourself - you can re-instate the AI driver later. Adding extra signals in the canyon would allow the AI to follow, but add then in one direction only, else a Mexican stand-off is inevitable. You will find though that the AI is now favoured in the 'more-signals' direction and the other end of the canyon will get congested - which is entirely prototypical. I have read an account somewhere of a hog crew on a busy day spending their entire shift sitting at East Sais waiting for the signal to change while streams of Qs and Zs thundered past in both directions. Their signal never changed - they spent the whole shift staring at the same red light!

Getting the AI to run a local is possible, but tricky. Experiment with a new one-train session, then add the train to the 'main' session when it behaves as required.

Andy :)

[nicky9499]

a hog crew on a busy day spending their entire shift sitting at East Sais waiting for the signal to change while streams of Qs and Zs thundered past in both directions. Their signal never changed - they spent the whole shift staring at the same red light!

Andy :)

Really! Wouldn't a crew swap be required then to avoid the previous crew running out of maximum allowed operating hours? To think I start getting bored after ten minutes in the hole on the Vegreville Sub. :o

Cheerio,
Nicholas.

[Mouse84]

Great route. I built a new session for it and am really enjoying it. I tweaked the signals through the canyon and so far the AI is dealing with it rather well. I wish someone would build a decent 2 head automatic signal.

[Dermmy]

Great route. I built a new session for it and am really enjoying it. I tweaked the signals through the canyon and so far the AI is dealing with it rather well. I wish someone would build a decent 2 head automatic signal.

Thanks Mouse, glad you are enjoying the route.

JointedRail's Safetran signals are on Clovis2, together with improvements in the signalling on the C1 part of the route. The route now has correct working divergance signals on most crossovers together with new aspects like flashing yellows etc....

Andy :)

[Mouse84]

But the only correct 2 head automatic signal is built-ins that came with the game. I like JointedRail's signals, but until they can come up with a complete set, they are lacking.

[Rougespear7mm]

So Andy, I've been playing around...

So far I've gotten the session and the route to work fine in TRS09 except for something being messed up with the draw distances. I can set them at 5000m and the computer will not draw them out; looks to stop at about 2000m. Do you have any idea why it's doing this? I know the computer should be capable of drawing the distance, but it just won't do it! I've noticed that the draw distance will increase if I turn down the scenery detail - is this a sign of a lack of RAM? I have 2 GB...

So I'm now trying to get it working in TRS06. I've cleared ALL dependancies in CMP for the Clovis Sub route and the Belen Dispatcher (2006 version) session. There's still numberous errors associated with the route and session though. I cannot for the life of me get the session working in-game! When I load the session, it will come up with a black screen saying there is problems with the route and asks me if I should proceed... I do and in-game, there are a few plants on the ground that appear white opposed to being colored! Weird, any thoughts?

As for the session, there is NO rolling stock or locomotives loaded into the session anywhere - and I know the assets are installed. It just loads me to ground level out near the eastern exit portals! When I go into map view, there is a big circle on the view screen unlike any other circumstances...

Any ideas on how I can get this working in TRS2006?

Thanks again mate, Brent

[Dermmy]

Hi Brent - I don't have 09, so I have little in the way of practical suggestions on that score.

TRS06 on the other hand should not be a problem, the route was built in 04 but the session was built and tested in 06 and I know it works. Your symptoms sound like missing content, if you know you have everything, delete the file assets.tdx from the 06 root folder. The file will be remade when you start either 06 or CMP. Rebuilding the file can take a while and the sim will look frozen, just let it be. If that doesn't fix it, delete the route and session and re-download being sure to install the route first.

If you are still in strife, post back...

Andy :)

[whitestation]

Hi Andy

This all sounds ggod fun, but maybe I am missing something. I only have TRS09 installed and I think I have downloaded everything but when I start the TRS09 Session I don't see much at all. I notice there is not an 09 route so I downloaded the TRS04/06 one.

Is that where I am going wrong:o

[Dermmy]

You have the only route and the correct session.. The session should open with about six or seven (I forget) trains on the route, if you are not seeing much I suspect missing content. Double check that you have everything, including all rolling stock dependencies. The session uses several locos from West Coast Trains and there are some small text links on the WCL download page which lead to hornsounds and other dependencies. These small links are easily overlooked...

Andy ;)

[whitestation]

Thanks Andy for your reply.. I seem to be having problems with the CDP files.. Have I got this right, once they are saved I go into CM and File/Import Content on the CDP file. I get an error message 'Unable to read this file',

Thanks again

[Dermmy]

I find in 06 CMP it is quicker and more reliable to drag new content from the desktop into the left-hand window of CMP. I found using the 'Import Content' or 'Import cdp' options from the menu unreliable, could be that CM2 is the same. Which specific cdp(s) is/are giving problems?

Andy...

[theedge2k]

Hey Dermmy,
The route still not show in TRS2006 even after deleted and then d/l it again.

George

[fran1]

Thanks Andy for your reply.. I seem to be having problems with the CDP files.. Have I got this right, once they are saved I go into CM and File/Import Content on the CDP file. I get an error message 'Unable to read this file',

Thanks again
I suspect the reason you can't open them is because they are RAR files. if so download WinRAR then you can open them and change them to readable CDP files. RAR files look like 3 books bound together when on the desktop.

[Dermmy]

That makes three reports of TRS06 install problems, gimme a while to check that the cdp is not corrupt...

Andy

[whitestation]

OK Andy Ill wait on that reply.

Two other probs though Im afraid.. Dont seem to have a link for the locos UP C40-8 and UP C40-8 wings for Alastair and Franky. Also how long should the Instant Load take.. Aimee seems to wait ages for anything to happen!!

[Dermmy]

Just checked - the links from http://www.sporbust.com/TRS-Downloads.php (which is linked from the Clovis session download page at Checkrail) are live and working for all Frank's locos.

'InstantLoad' is - well - instant (almost!). If Aimee is not loading you are missing trailer dependencies, all of which are on the DLS. Aimee shold be rolling as the session starts...

Andy ;)

[whitestation]

'InstantLoad' is - well - instant (almost!). If Aimee is not loading you are missing trailer dependencies, all of which are on the DLS. Aimee shold be rolling as the session starts...

Andy ;)

Well i think im almost there can you tell me the trailer dependencies or is there a link to them somewhere..

Promise I wont bother u again after this :o

[Dermmy]

can you tell me the trailer dependencies or is there a link to them somewhere..

They are on the DLS, CMP/CM2 should grab them automatically, just drag the spine cars into the Download box and click 'Start'....

And keep 'bothering' me if it ain't working - it should!!!!

For folks having TRS06 install problems I have had a few people test the cdp and it seems OK. If it won't install, try re-downloading and instead of double-clicking to execute the download, drag-and-drop the cdp into an open CMP download page...

Andy :)

[whitestation]

Error: Unable to load source texture 'hash-59/tempwkn1urwn23/48ftapl.convert-tex' in subst 'local'
Error: Unable to load source texture 'hash-59/tempwkn1urwn23/map1.convert-tex' in subst 'local'
Message: Installed asset <kuid2:113556:300000:1>

Andy got this error message when installing in CMP ... HELP

[Dermmy]

Absolutely no idea what the first two lines are - I have never seen an error message remotely like it. Which is no help whatsoever, sorry! I would suggest posting in the TRS2009 forum for specific help with those errors.

Are you running in compatibility mode or native? The route is Trainzbuild 2.4, so I would assume TRS09 would need to be in 'Compatibility' mode to run it.

Several assets used in the route throw up 'errors' which cause the route to show a 'faulty dependencies' icon, but absolutely nothing has to be done by the user, every asset used will perform as intended in TRS06 and TRS09 without attempting to 'fix' errors. I have in fact yet to encounter an 'error' which prevents an asset (or route) from working....

Andy ;)

[whitestation]

Thanks anyway Andy... All seems to be running OK so far anyway.. Ive only run a couple of seesions so far although not completed.

Main problems seems to be consists almost having head on crashes.. No doubt some devine intervention is needed on my part!!:)

[whitestation]

Andy

I have a problem i cant get round.. Towards the end Franky keeps colliding head on with consist 0 when heading towards the Eastern Portal.

[Dermmy]

Not sure what you mean by 'towards the end' - the session is endless time-wise. If you mean 'near the portals' then head-on collisions near portals should be impossible (OK, nothing is impossible) but anyway one-way traffic is enforced for a significant distance before portals to avoid cornfield meets with spawning trains.

Also the session includes 'Derailed Vehicle Eraser' (or something equivalent) which instantly removes derailments so if something unxpected does happen it does not stop the session...

Andy :)