View Full Version : Bridge Height Signs
lewisner
May 31st, 2007, 06:04 AM
Hello all, I just wanted to ask if there are any of the triangular Bridge Height Warning Signs as used on rail over road bridges in the UK available?I"ve searched the DLS using as many terms as I could think of but the extensive range of South African (UK style) signs give no clue as to whats in each Asset and I don"t want to clog my Surveyor up with superfluous content.Thanks in advance...
trackplate
May 31st, 2007, 11:32 AM
Not sure if this is what you are looking for Sign Low Bridge by skipper1945 kuid116296:16109
Bob V
lewisner
May 31st, 2007, 11:46 AM
Cheers I"ll have a look at it.Its actually the triangular signs fixed to the bridge span if poss...:confused:
davidbird
May 31st, 2007, 01:24 PM
I'm looking for that as well...
The item mentioned is the old pre-1960s style, and on a post...
A word of warning if using that one!
If you download kuid:116296:16109, what you actually get is kuid2:116296:16109:127
If you then upload the route to the DLS, when it's downloaded by another user their DLSHelper/CMP will search for kuid2:116296:16109:127 - which is "Not Found", and the route will show with "Missing Dependencies"
To fix this can I manually add the text for kuid:116296:16109 into the config file to fool CMP into downloading the item? If I send a cdp of my layout can somebody test that please?
lewisner
May 31st, 2007, 02:09 PM
I tried Skippers sign and its actually the 1940s style roadside post mounted variety so the search goes on....Incidentally David, you were looking for photos of Nottingham Midland - I borrowed the book "British Rail Diesels in the East Midlands " from the local library and theres a great phot showing the frontage and the LMS warehouse nearby.Very atmospheric.
leeferr
May 31st, 2007, 02:47 PM
can you post a picture of what you're talking about. It should be fairly simple to create one.
davidbird
May 31st, 2007, 04:54 PM
This is what I'm looking for
low bridge in Par (http://db.cornwall.gov.uk/ltp/ltp20062011/full_images/262.jpg)
WileeCoyote
May 31st, 2007, 04:54 PM
Bridge height signs? This is a strange thing to have a sign for, whatever happened to just sticking your head out the window:p?
WileeCoyote:D
davidbird
May 31st, 2007, 05:04 PM
Even when you have a great big window at the front, some people still can't see what's coming!
http://rescuehumor.com/images/funnyphotos/busvbridge.jpg
It's a big problem in the UK. In my (former) area there was an incident involving a JCB excavator loaded on a flatbed lorry. The arm struck the underside of a bridge (on the Old Dalby test track) and swung round and hit a bus travelling in the opposite direction. Sadly a bus passenger was killed. But this was (of course - given the general pro-road/anti-rail climate in the UK) followed by demands for the demolition of the rail bridge rather than better training for lorry drivers/operators and stiffer penalties for flouting the rules...
lewisner
May 31st, 2007, 05:13 PM
I had a quick look at some of my photos and the only one I had was too small to blow up! Heres a link to the Department of Transport page for Roadsigns.With typical European nonsense its shown in feet and metres, which is a really good idea when you have a half asleep bus driver and he reads feet as metres. http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/signs05.htm
davidbird
June 1st, 2007, 03:11 AM
This is what I'm looking for
low bridge in Par (http://db.cornwall.gov.uk/ltp/ltp20062011/full_images/262.jpg)
Just realised that, as well as being a huge photo, its too bright for the markings on the sign to be seen! However the link to the DoT that lewisner posted (thanks) shows it well.
If somebody does make a sign, maybe it could be "renamable" to show different heights?
Paulsw2
June 4th, 2007, 05:30 PM
Oo yes, I'd like one of these please for the 9' clearance low underpass going beneath the tracks at Ely, Cambridgeshire. :)
lewisner
June 4th, 2007, 06:25 PM
I don"t think it would really need to be configurable - its really a Scenic item just to enhance the bridge , so a nice average height of 18 - 20 Feet (sorry I don"t like Metres) would be good.
davidbird
June 5th, 2007, 05:20 PM
I don"t think it would really need to be configurable - its really a Scenic item just to enhance the bridge , so a nice average height of 18 - 20 Feet (sorry I don"t like Metres) would be good.
Would 18 - 20 feet need a restriction sign? I recall (vaguely) that only bridges below 16 ft need a sign. I may be wrong about the exact value, but there is one.
Did you think I meant configuarable to display at different heights above the roadway? I didn't, I just meant to display different text as many other signs do.
BTW, thanks for tip about pics. Think I've found one I can use.
Oo yes, I'd like one of these please for the 9' clearance low underpass going beneath the tracks at Ely, Cambridgeshire. :)
This would be the one Paul, wouldn't it?!
http://www.stuntney.org.uk/LowBridge.jpg
This throws up another point. While we are looking for the triangular warning sign, some bridges, like at Ely - and (I noticed yesterday) at Borrowdale on the West Highland Mallaig Line have circular "prohibition" signs. Anybody know of any definate policy on this, or is it just down to the local highways dept... I would have thought that all low bridges deserve a prohibition rather than a warning. After all, if you're 14' high you can't get under a 13'6" bridge, no matter how careful you are...
Paulsw2
June 8th, 2007, 02:14 PM
:) lovely pic! added to the collection...
I think the round signs are modern usage - I have a pic of the low bridge at Ely taken in the 80s where there are two triangular signs for 9' and 2.74m.
Rather than a renameable warning sign, perhaps we could just have a small series running from, say, 9 to 15'? (and I would prefer triangular and in feet!)
lewisner
June 8th, 2007, 04:36 PM
"Davidbird" I was under the impression that ALL bridges had Height Restriction Signs but on reflection I may be wrong - but then the DOT page doesn"t specify a max height for the erection of such signs.When I said "configurable" I meant a sign with a blank height value which you could enter yourself.
davidbird
June 12th, 2007, 04:46 PM
...perhaps we could just have a small series running from, say, 9 to 15'? (and I would prefer triangular and in feet!)
Think its over to the content creators now!
A series of triangular signs, without posts, in (for example) values of 9', 10', 11', 12', 12'6", 13', 13'6", 14', 14'6", 15', 16'.
Need to be rotatable and height adjustable...
Any offers anybody?
davidbird
July 18th, 2008, 02:49 PM
Just thought I'd bump this thread up with a link to this picture... its not just careless lorry drivers that get stuck under bridges...
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=148631
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