Help Required: Zxr400's class 33.

[pellet]

has anyone downloaded this?

I cannot get it to work as there is no 'engine sound' asset.

Does this mean the specs?

Does anyone know how I can get this to work, e.g which KUID I need for the engine sound


thanks in advance

Dan
14 year old enthusiast

[SHANKS]

You need to download this asset
http://www.auran.com/TRS2004/DLS_viewasset.php?AssetID=23561

Duncan

[pellet]

I have that already installed, is that the only one possible?

As 33's have a unique engine (sulzer 8LDA28), would it sound OK?


thanks for the help anyway


dan

[pellet]

Oh, and is it the specs?


dan

[jivebunny]

The enginesound is the sound, the enginespec is the specs.
If you don't like the sound then your best bet is to make your own :)

What errors does Trainzobjectz / CMP give you?

JB

[pellet]

what do you mean what errors?


so, in effect, it should sound exactly like the class 26?


dan

[pellet]

they still don't work, evn with the sounds, but it says that is still missing:confused:

[jivebunny]

If it's not working it's usually because something's missing or there's an error, but we need to know what TO / CMP are telling you is wrong before we can help.
I've just taken a look at this myself, it doesn't require the Class 26 enginesound at all... Here are the kuids you need to have:

kuid:51536:50005
kuid:51536:50004
kuid:51536:55000
kuid:51536:51003

JB

[pellet]

yes, I have all of those, but it still says my engine sound is missng


by the way, thanks for guiding me through this!

What should the specs read
and what should the engine sound read?

[pellet]

hmm, I have both the specs and sound registering as 51536:51003, which obviously isn't right, I have tinkered with them both (whoops!), but I don't know which are the correct KUIDs for these 2.

[pellet]

Does anybody know them?

[BidMod]

Have you got these dependencies?

br,<kuid:-1:42003102>
alco,<kuid:-1:42003001>
33001_interior,<kuid:51536:55000>
33_a_bogey,<kuid2:51536:50006:4>
33_b_bogey,<kuid:51536:50007>
class_33_engine,<kuid2:51536:51003:3>

These are from
Class_33_1,<kuid:51536:1331>

The only one I can't get to work is
Class_33_2_WCR,<kuid2:51536:33207:1>

Hope that helps
BidMod.

[pellet]

what are the 'br and 'alco?

and why the kuid2:51536:51003:3?

[pellet]

got a email from the creator, he said it does need the rat engine sounds

still doesn't work, however...

[BidMod]

what are the 'br and 'alco?

and why the kuid2:51536:51003:3?

br and alco are built in assets (signified by the negative kuid), and are soounds.

kuid2:51536:51003:3 contains all of the information relating to the performance of the locomotive. (engine config)

Which 33 are you trying to get to work anyway?

BidMod.

[pellet]

all of the four available

so, should I set it to the kuid2:....?

[BidMod]

I can remember it took me a long time to get all of the components, but I don't remember ever changing the configs around. I do know there are more than 4 33s on the DLS - there are over 20 if you include all the variations (33/0, 33/1, 33/2)!

Take another look to make sure you have all of the dependencies, because that was what was wrong when I had the problem. The way around that I eventually did was to download all of the uploads by zxr400, then one of them must have been missing.

I've just looked back at the first post, and the enginespec, as mentioned in my last post, is class_33_engine,<kuid2:51536:51003:3>.

[pellet]

Yes, everything is there, I will paste a config file on here:

kuid <kuid:51536:1331>
bogey <kuid:51536:50006>
bogey-1 <kuid:51536:50007>
engine 1
interior <kuid:51536:55000>
fonts 2
category-region-0
category-era-0
category-class "AL"
name "Class_33_1"
mass 72000
company "British Railways"
origin "UK"
kind "traincar"
running-numbers {
rn-0 "#33101"
rn-1 "#33104"
rn-3 "#33109"
rn-2 "#33112"
}
smoke_shade 0.3
smoke_random 2.5
smoke_slowlife 9
smoke_fastlife 1.3
smoke_height 3
smoke_fastspeed 2.9
enginespec <kuid:51536:51003>
enginesound <kuid:104722:53024>
hornsound <kuid:37028:54033>
light_color 50,50,1
asset-filename "class_33_1"
username "Class_33_1"
author "Mark (zxr400)"
organisation "-"
contact-email "trainz@scuds.freeserve.co.uk"
contact-website "mysite.freeserve.com/screenie"
license "This model is supplied on an 'as is' basis , any consequences are solely the responsibility of the user. "

[BidMod]

Which version of TRS are you using?

If you're using TRS04, then I think you'll need to ensure it's patched to SP4. If not, it's probably a good idea to upgrade anyway.

I've noticed that missing from that config is the KUID table, but missing from both that you pasted and the one I have is the build number - perhaps this is the problem.

BidMod.

[GreatEastern]

Well on my PC these lines are different from yours:

enginesound <kuid:-1:42003001>
hornsound <kuid:-1:42003102>

Both of those are built in and work.

Andy

[pellet]

I'm using UTC

would you mind pasting yours, so I can tell the difference?

[pellet]

Well on my PC these lines are different from yours:

enginesound <kuid:-1:42003001>
hornsound <kuid:-1:42003102>

Both of those are built in and work.

Andy


yes, but they are the standard ones

[BidMod]

I'm using UTC

I suspect this is why they don't work. I think they only work in TRS04 and above, although I could be wrong.

for reference - config:
kuid <kuid:51536:1331>
bogey <kuid:51536:50006>
bogey-1 <kuid:51536:50007>
engine 1
interior <kuid:51536:55000>
fonts 2
category-region-0
category-era-0
category-class "AL"
name "Class_33_1"
mass 72000
company "British Railways"
origin "UK"
kind "traincar"
running-numbers {
rn-0 "#33101"
rn-1 "#33104"
rn-3 "#33109"
rn-2 "#33112"
}
smoke_shade 0.3
smoke_random 2.5
smoke_slowlife 9
smoke_fastlife 1.3
smoke_height 3
smoke_fastspeed 2.9
enginespec <kuid:51536:51003>
enginesound <kuid:-1:42003001>
hornsound <kuid:-1:42003102>
light_color 50,50,1
asset-filename "class_33_1"
username "Class_33_1"
author "Mark (zxr400)"
organisation
contact-email "trainz@scuds.freeserve.co.uk"
contact-website "mysite.freeserve.com/screenie"
license "This model is supplied on an 'as is' basis , any consequences are solely the responsibility of the user. "
kuid-table {
0 <kuid:51536:50006>
1 <kuid:51536:50007>
2 <kuid:51536:55000>
3 <kuid:51536:51003>
4 <kuid:-1:42003001>
5 <kuid:-1:42003102>
}

Well spotted Great Eastern - I didn't notice those KUIDs

BidMod.

[pellet]

yes, that probably is the reason :(, sorry for all the hassle caused to everyone

but why list them in the UTC DLS if they are not compatible


the horn sound was by Hentis, they always work, that wouldn't have affected it

[BidMod]

but why list them in the UTC DLS if they are not compatible

I noticed that the build tag was missing, so presumably the DLS just got confuzzled. There should be a tag in there with build "2.4" to prevent users who cannot use the item from DL'ing it.

BidMod.

[pellet]

oh :(


they have had to be replaced by 2 more class 26's... hmm

[GreatEastern]

Why not upgrade to 04 or 06? You'd have a heck of a lot more content that you could use and passenger stations.

Andy

[pellet]

I desperately want 06, but you give me the money, then I can!

I must keep pestering my dad about it...

[GreatEastern]

Well obviously it isn't a huge amount but I see that it could be quite a lot for children/young teenagers. BTW when you do get it buy it from Auran. It may cost more but you don't have to have the disk in to play which is a real plus, trust me!

Andy

[pellet]

that is the same for UTC